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    Buzz619's Avatar
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    Guys,
    Even if we count trials as raids.. they are now irrelevant since they drop Ilvl 90 gear, so there is no reason for people to even run them
    As for the towers.. they are relatively easy content (LFR) that don't need a static group to clear, so i don't consider them to be true endgame content
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    Arixtotle's Avatar
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    Masakata Izumi
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz619 View Post
    Guys,
    Even if we count trials as raids.. they are now irrelevant since they drop Ilvl 90 gear, so there is no reason for people to even run them
    As for the towers.. they are relatively easy content (LFR) that don't need a static group to clear, so i don't consider them to be true endgame content
    Key word is "now". When they were released they were endgame. They became not endgame as the game progresses and new content was released. Doesn't mean they aren't raids though. Just like it doesn't mean that MC in WoW isn't a raid just because people can now solo it.
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz619 View Post
    Guys,
    Even if we count trials as raids.. they are now irrelevant since they drop Ilvl 90 gear, so there is no reason for people to even run them
    As for the towers.. they are relatively easy content (LFR) that don't need a static group to clear, so i don't consider them to be true endgame content
    By your logic, again, CT and BCOB don't count as raids because THEY only drop i90 gear.

    Then you have Shiva and Ramuh, who have rewards on par with SCOB. Are they raids, then?
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    Welsper59's Avatar
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    Eros Maxima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz619 View Post
    As for the towers.. they are relatively easy content (LFR) that don't need a static group to clear, so i don't consider them to be true endgame content
    So what you're arguing about is the lack of max endgame content? As in, bosses at least on par with un-nerfed T5/9/13 to be considered a raid boss? You're barking up the wrong tree if so lol. That's kinda what savage modes are for if the difficulty is your main concern. Besides that, the redone game hasn't been out for very long (not really even close to 2 years yet), they release content for various interests every 1-3 months, and have been experimenting with many things (including difficulty). Their focus is not just max endgame raiding... it never has been, and it never will be. Their focus is to introduce "content".
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