Thread: Relic in 3.0

Originally Posted by Callinon

Far worse would be three expansions from now when the 2.x relic would be mathematically best in slot for certain classes for some reason.

It's perfectly fine for the relic-type weapons to be scope-limited.

You have your trophies. You'll build a new one in 3.1 (perhaps several). And you get a leg up for having zeta weapons now.

You seem to be misinterpreting that I want a 2.x relic to be best.

Rather I want them to continue the relic quest chain, with more upgrades - nerfing earlier steps so its easier for new players and old players to catch up - instead of throwing the whole quest chain in the garbage.

Much like relics in FFXI started when the game was level 75 - can be upgraded to 99 and extended with whatever ilvl system they have now.

Originally Posted by Chihaya

You seem to be misinterpreting that I want a 2.x relic to be best.

Rather I want them to continue the relic quest chain, with more upgrades - nerfing earlier steps so its easier for new players and old players to catch up - instead of throwing the whole quest chain in the garbage.

Much like relics in FFXI started when the game was level 75 - can be upgraded to 99 and extended with whatever ilvl system they have now.

In FFXI, the dev team had made the explicit promise that the relic would always be the best weapon. And that made some kind of sense considering it would take years, dozens of people, and bazillions of gil to make one.

In FFXIV this is not the case. You can currently build a relic in a day. You can take that relic and upgrade it to Zeta in about 2 months. Costs about 4m gil depending on server economy. These are not equivalent.

The zeta relic served me well here. And it'll serve me well as a leveling weapon. But continuing that weapon across expansions creates dangerous possibilities in this kind of game.

Originally Posted by Callinon

In FFXI, the dev team had made the explicit promise that the relic would always be the best weapon. And that made some kind of sense considering it would take years, dozens of people, and bazillions of gil to make one.

Don't forget they introduced Mythic weapons in ToA and were for most, on parwith relic weapons. Then they made Emp weapons with abyssea that went to I level 99 and outclassed relics and mythic. Leaving aegis and the bow the most reliable relics to have at 75. Eventually adding Magian quests to grind them up to 99 and laiter Adoulins smith npc in Jueno. But those were different combat mechanics for a different game.

In terms of lore, Zodiac seems to be a foreign mythos brought and reclaimed in Eorzea using the rebuilt Relics as a base form. That said it would make sense if other regions and continents had their own legendary artifacts. Just look at that Great Katana Gilgamesh has. It had to come from somewhere. Ultimately I'm going to do a bunch of relics only in the off chance they pull a Magian Trial or Adoulin upgrade at some point.

Tecnicly guys, the new relics comes on 3.0. What comes on 3.1 is the upgrade relic, on where we will see the "continuation" of the Zetas.

Originally Posted by Frederick22

Tecnicly guys, the new relics comes on 3.0. What comes on 3.1 is the upgrade relic, on where we will see the "continuation" of the Zetas.

That is just your wishful thinking lol

Originally Posted by SDaemon

That is just your wishful thinking lol

Nop is not, you didnt notice all those weapons that were with those characters on the af2 video? And im aware that is not a continuation, that we may have an advantaje. Thats why I said continuation with " " .

Originally Posted by Frederick22

Nop is not, you didnt notice all those weapons that were with those characters on the af2 video? And im aware that is not a continuation, that we may have an advantaje. Thats why I said continuation with " " .

There has been no mention at all that 3.1 will see the continued progress of the Zodiac weapons aka our Zetas.

Originally Posted by SDaemon

There has been no mention at all that 3.1 will see the continued progress of the Zodiac weapons aka our Zetas.

In fact Yoshi P has explicitly stated that we will NOT be continuing our existing zeta weapons beyond the 2.x series. 3.1 will start an entirely different weapon for us to grow over the course of the expansion. Having a zeta weapon will provide some unspecified advantage to this new weapon.

I'm pleased that they gonna be doing something about the current zodiacs (having 3 zodiacs) this actually takes a big weight out of my shoulders. I would of been really annoyed if they decided to just dump the old relics completely. Can't wait to see what's next!