Why I Decided to Become an Elitist

[Rendecrow]

Honestly DPS meters greatly helps average players improve their performance by being able to see what areas they are struggling in easier than without them. If they were allowed I think you would probably see slightly better group performance overall in the community.

Could they reasonably do this with PS3 and PS4 support, though?

Probably. A company with millions (if not billions) of dollars can find a way! :P

[raelgun]

Could they reasonably do this with PS3 and PS4 support, though?

PS4 more likely, they can create a program that exists along side FF14 and have the addons uploaded through there, as long as the addons fufill the program parameters it shouldn't cause any problems for sony end of things, then again this game is bringing them in money.

Similer thing is done through WOW addons, you could technically just install by putting the files into the folders or use Curse which is how I can see it working.

[Izsha]

If your using a program to give you an advantage over other players not using said program. That is against the ToS.

You should be banned for such programs. Yes.

The programs also not perfect. It only reads your own DPS correctly, and most of the time doesn't even do that well.

A 2nd window with numbers rolling doesn't give you any tangible advantage. The only reason they are against the toss is because they read game files and any program that reads or interacts with SE'S game files is against the ToS. It has nothing to do with giving an advantage. Speed hacks, bots and such. Those give an advantage. A program that reads your chat log doesn't (unless it's also announcing stuff like monster moves and stuff). But the actual number crunching aspect of parses is only bad because it pokes at SE'S game files.

[raelgun]

Except your comparing two different (very different companies.)

What did yoshi P base this game on again?

during the london fanfest, someone asked to see scaling numbers ingame, yoshi response was to go online to fine out lol, guess who also says the same thing.

[Ashkendor]

PS4 more likely, they can create a program that exists along side FF14 and have the addons uploaded through there, as long as the addons fufill the program parameters it shouldn't cause any problems for sony end of things, then again this game is bringing them in money.

Similer thing is done through WOW addons, you could technically just install by putting the files into the folders or use Curse which is how I can see it working.

And then Sony rubs their collective hands together in glee as they figure out the fee to carry it.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

What did yoshi P base this game on again?

Everquest 1? We are following the formula right?

[Rendecrow]

You would also see more hatred, bullying and a worse overall community. Not only that its not perfect yet, the parser only reads what it can grab from the game. However the second they make it legal they also make things like scripts and deadly boss mods legal as well. Coils will then become a complete joke, because the fights become: "Simon Says".

Becareful what you wish for, Macroquest says hi.

Spoken like someone who has never played WoW. ;P Are there negatives? Yes! Hell yes! lol

But are there positives? You bet! Meters greatly enhance end game content for people who are trying it.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

A 2nd window with numbers rolling doesn't give you any tangible advantage. The only reason they are against the toss is because they read game files and any program that reads or interacts with SE'S game files is against the ToS. It has nothing to do with giving an advantage. Speed hacks, bots and such. Those give an advantage. A program that reads your chat log doesn't (unless it's also announcing stuff like monster moves and stuff). But the actual number crunching aspect of parses is only bad because it pokes at SE'S game files.

Wrong, it tells you when things hit you. It tells you whats doing more damage to you, it tells you how much damage your rotation produces, it tells you overall healing output (in many games!)

Knowing how much damage is being done to you in fights isn't an advantage? Knowing when stuff hits you (because your pulling from a script! and reading packets!) isn't an advantage?

Sniffing the packets of other players isn't wrong to you?

It is a huge advantage, quit covering your eyes please.

[Ashkendor]

I have no problem with people who use parsers, or with the parsers themselves. But if you decide to be a jerk, and you put yourself in a position of vulnerability while you are being a jerk, I see no reason not to exploit that for both the betterment of my community and my personal enjoyment.

I have to agree. I have nothing against parser use and feel that it can be a valuable tool for endgame.

I have problems with people that use them in regular lolfaceroll dungeons to bully people. -.-

Sniffing the packets of other players isn't wrong to you?

But... some players' packets smell like cookies. Cookies are good. :c

[AlexionSkylark]

Honestly DPS meters greatly helps average players improve their performance by being able to see what areas they are struggling in easier than without them. If they were allowed I think you would probably see slightly better group performance overall in the community.

Not to mention all the harassment DPSers would suffer for not being "up to par" with their obnoxiously high expectations of how much DPS a player should be pulling. Even with it being a bannable offense I already got a couple of idiots going like "rofl 180 DPS, kick that noob" on DF groups. If this thing was permitted, the environment here would become exactly like it is in WoW: every run in every dungeon and raid would be an epeen competition between the DPSers, with them constantly mocking and bragging and dissing each other.