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  1. #251
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    Izsha's Avatar
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    Izsha Azel
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    If you wanna stuff your epeen down some newbs throat, I'm going to stuff the ToS down yours. Fair, no?
    ToS or no, it's still a double standard that tanks and heals get an inordinate amount of grief based on their performance, but dps get at worst a proverbial slap on the wrist because they don't know what the combo system iis.im fine never giving deeps grief if they never complain about tanks and heals playing slowly or inefficiently, loosing hate or occasionally letting people die.
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  2. #252
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    Rende Crow
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    Malboro
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    There really should be -something-, even if just for yourself to see how your damage is and compare it for your own self improvement..
    Addons like what WoW has would be amazing for the game. DPS meters while sometimes "annoying" when people excessively link them really do help people improve on dps and hps.

    Trying to improve your own performance? Take a look at what others in the group are doing and adjust what you do until your numbers are good.

    This all being said, I have played WoW for years and I will acknowledge that there are some very real negatives that come from performance meters. Namely people harassing others over bad performance or not understanding how to read the meters properly. That being said, if you are in a group that is wiping at 10% on a boss everytime, properly using meters make it very easy to identify the issues and fix the group.

    I think the good of meters outweighs the bad.
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  3. #253
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    If your using a program to give you an advantage over other players not using said program. That is against the ToS.

    You should be banned for such programs. Yes.

    The programs also not perfect. It only reads your own DPS correctly, and most of the time doesn't even do that well.
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  4. #254
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    FrejyaAthenes's Avatar
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    Freyja Alfodr
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    If your using a program to give you an advantage over other players not using said program. That is against the ToS.

    You should be banned for such programs. Yes.

    The programs also not perfect. It only reads your own DPS correctly, and most of the time doesn't even do that well.
    If you outlaw parsers, only outlaws will have parsers.

    ...In all honesty I have no stance on the things, I just wanted to say that.
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  5. #255
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    Thendra Cyril-gun
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    If you wanna stuff your epeen down some newbs throat, I'm going to stuff the ToS down yours. Fair, no?
    Wonder if you will still play the game when addons come out, hint DPS meters will be made and allowed through the system, Blizzard gave the exact same response to why they do not include an official meter yet dps meters exist through addons.

    I will take great joy in knowing that you will get berated for low DPS .
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  6. #256
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    Wonder if you will still play the game when addons come out, hint DPS meters will be made and allowed through the system, Blizzard gave the exact same response to why they do not include an official meter yet dps meters exist through addons.
    Could they reasonably do this with PS3 and PS4 support, though?
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  7. #257
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    Honestly DPS meters greatly helps average players improve their performance by being able to see what areas they are struggling in easier than without them. If they were allowed I think you would probably see slightly better group performance overall in the community.
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  8. #258
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    Wonder if you will still play the game when addons come out, hint DPS meters will be made and allowed through the system, Blizzard gave the exact same response to why they do not include an official meter yet dps meters exist through addons.
    Except your comparing two different (very different companies.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    Honestly DPS meters greatly helps average players improve their performance by being able to see what areas they are struggling in easier than without them. If they were allowed I think you would probably see slightly better group performance overall in the community.
    You would also see more hatred, bullying and a worse overall community. Not only that its not perfect yet, the parser only reads what it can grab from the game. However the second they make it legal they also make things like scripts and deadly boss mods legal as well. Coils will then become a complete joke, because the fights become: "Simon Says".

    Becareful what you wish for, Macroquest says hi.
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  9. #259
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    Don't forget the skill speed melds :P
    The skill speed melds are to hit the breakpoint for a 9-hit berserk.
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  10. #260
    Player Intaki's Avatar
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    V'aleera Lhuil
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    Wonder if you will still play the game when addons come out
    I have no problem with people who use parsers, or with the parsers themselves. But if you decide to be a jerk, and you put yourself in a position of vulnerability while you are being a jerk, I see no reason not to exploit that for both the betterment of my community and my personal enjoyment.
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