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  1. #241
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    Rendecrow's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    For LoL that might work, but in the original example you used do you think they learned a lesson about being a jerk, or about sharing parse information with strangers? Cause if anything, you might've just made it worse. You can still easily trash talk without parse info, but if someone asks for their dps, they might think that person is trying to trick them like you did.
    I dont really see the issue with it. Just because it is "against the rules" does not mean that it should be. Obviously serious things like boting and rmt should be reported everytime. but parsing? Why? Why should sharing dps numbers be a bannable offense?
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  2. #242
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    Dante_V's Avatar
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    Dante Venarra
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    On a side note the OP is now in another post talking about how he bought his Titan EX clear... Kind of really adds a new perspective to the post when reading it. Anyways you guys have a good day. Time to go home and play dem gamessss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    Well its more than that. You should have a solid spell/ability rotation, decent gear, and as much min/maxing as possible. None of that makes you an "elitist", just a good player! ;P
    Guess I am good! :3
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  4. #244
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante_V View Post
    On a side note the OP is now in another post talking about how he bought his Titan EX clear... Kind of really adds a new perspective to the post when reading it. Anyways you guys have a good day. Time to go home and play dem gamessss.
    People lie on the internet!!!!! O.o lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    Yes you do. If you don't do that then you are an average player. If you do it, then you are a good player. Good players try to do the best job they can. That includes knowing fights in duties/alliances and getting ready for group content outside of group content (such as working on min/max). If you don't do that, and just do things as they come along you can still do alright, but you would land squarely in the legions of average players out there! :P
    think they meant you don't need min/maxing (which by definition, would be using racial traits as well, for barely even a minimal gain in numbers) to be good. Cause lets be honest, if ya really were practicing what ya preached, why ya not a lala as a Mage :3. eh, see what i did there. XD
    Nahh but seriously tho, you can be a good player without that min/max and only world firsters consider even doing that. Which I heavily doubt many posting here are gunning for.
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  6. #246
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    I dont really see the issue with it. Just because it is "against the rules" does not mean that it should be. Obviously serious things like boting and rmt should be reported everytime. but parsing? Why? Why should sharing dps numbers be a bannable offense?
    I am not really offering an opinion, but just stating where the facts lie. It isn't necessarily because of the parser, it is that you are using a 3rd party program to harass another player, which is technically breaking two rules there. Yoshi-P has said a lot of times that it is technically against the ToS made by SE's legal team, not him necessarily making the rule, but is not going to go after people using 3rd party programs unless it is greatly affecting the game and other people. He understands the use for them, but for legal reasons, the team has to take action when you are caught using it in public.

    There really should be -something-, even if just for yourself to see how your damage is and compare it for your own self improvement. How much would it help? Not that much. It would be a step in the right direction however.
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  7. #247
    Player Intaki's Avatar
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    V'aleera Lhuil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    Why should sharing dps numbers be a bannable offense?
    If you wanna stuff your epeen down some newbs throat, I'm going to stuff the ToS down yours. Fair, no?
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  8. #248
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    If you wanna stuff your epeen down some newbs throat, I'm going to stuff the ToS down yours. Fair, no?
    No, not really fair lol. You're getting someone banned for addon use, even though the offense was harassment. You're manipulating the rules to your advantage. I'm not trying to defend people harassing-via-parse, but as I stated earlier you're being morally neutral at best. You may not be the bad guy, but you're definitely not the good guy either.
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    When in doubt, assume sarcasm

  9. #249
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    Yes you do. If you don't do that then you are an average player. If you do it, then you are a good player. Good players try to do the best job they can. That includes knowing fights in duties/alliances and getting ready for group content outside of group content (such as working on min/max). If you don't do that, and just do things as they come along you can still do alright, but you would land squarely in the legions of average players out there! :P
    Eh. I didn't want to invest the gil on materia or the time to spiritbond for my relics. The difference between a three-way split in stats and a two-way split is pretty negligible overall. Even without a "perfect" relic, I still consider myself a pretty good Paladin (not to mention Scholar, though I could use some work on Warrior and Monk.

    I see what you're trying to say, but I feel like it's really simplified. I don't feel like you have enough tiers. "Average" to me is the guy in all poetics gear or even some soldiery gear. He's the guy that's still struggling with T9 and doesn't necessarily understand the full use of all of his skills and abilities. "Good" means you're working towards BiS and you have a solid grasp on your class. You can salvage some pretty dire situations through proper applications of skills. If you're interested in endgame content, you may be in deep progression or you may have it on farm, depending on how much time you can spend on raiding and how good your network is. "Great" would be the top of the line for me. Those are the players that not only have BiS and have turns on farm, they're doing crazy stuff like 7 warrior T13 clears. If shit goes south, it doesn't matter. It's all in a day's work and you can recover all but the absolute worst of mistakes. Those of us that are "Average" watch in awe. Those of us that are "Good" see something to strive for.
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 04-30-2015 at 06:38 AM.

  10. #250
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    Freyja Alfodr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante_V View Post
    On a side note the OP is now in another post talking about how he bought his Titan EX clear... Kind of really adds a new perspective to the post when reading it. Anyways you guys have a good day. Time to go home and play dem gamessss.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    People lie on the internet!!!!! O.o lol
    Not exactly, just left out some details. Probably hoping to tease readers enough to look for the post in question. Well played.
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