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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    I've said this several times before in this topic, but it bears repeating; considering oneself to be elite is light years from actually being elite. Being elitist does not require or confer elite status. Being an elitist is a state of mind driven by ego not ability. Elite is a status or reputation conferred by others based on achievement or ability.
    It's also not entirely accurate in it's own right. On my server only 2.3% of the population has completed T13 as of the count put up on reddit a few weeks ago. I'm a member of that 2.3% since I was able to beat it before it went to party finder. On that objective measure I would definitely count myself in the Elite and I support that assertion with that statistic. But do however continue to make broad generalizations about people due to your negativity about their actual capabilities. Assumptions yo. Doesn't make you accurate to repeat it over and over. Kinda puts you into your own negative echo chamber. You've really been doing nothing here but arguing for continued prejudice in most of this thread. Does that make you feel good or something? To actively put people down? Do you think you're any better than the "elitists" you seem to hate? I don't think so.

    You Kosmos have actively been one of the most negative people in this thread.
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    Last edited by Tiggy; 05-02-2015 at 01:45 AM.

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    2.3%!? Get out you filthy casual! On my server only 1.7% beat t13. I'm like 35% more elite than you Tiggy!

    Also, the definition of elite was considered superior by yourself OR others. You don't need a democratic vote to consider on self superior. But I still prefer the definition of objectively superior because that is a clear definition, not some fluffy opinion. If we race and I win, I'm objectively superior at running etc. 'Feeling' elite is what a lot of the insta rage quitting jerks do, or the WoD heroes that think they're gods gift to 14. They think themselves superior with no evidence to support that claim. If you want to belong to an elite class, better back it up with something real!
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post

    You Kosmos have actively been one of the most negative people in this thread.
    Tiggy,

    When are you going to read what is written? with in the context that we are discussing this, elitism is NOT aspiring to be elite. Being elite is not the same as being elitist, or practising elitism. I am no more negative about elite players than I am myself. As far as I am concerned elite players, those who can down T13 and the like, are among the best players of this game, end of story.

    But being elite doesn't make any of those people elitist, nor does it make them assholes. I've never said or suggested that it does, quite the opposite actually. The most negative thing I have said in this topic is that elitists are often assholes. That says NOTHING about elite players. If you can't understand that, I don't know how to help you.

    That said, my definition of elite players extends beyond those who achieve a T13 clear, to me the truly elite players who are simply excellent players, have a good attitude, are helpful, fair and civil to all. Of course those elite players have the gear and achievements that go along with their skill. BTW, no need to check my lodestone profile, I absolutely do not consider myself among the elite players.

    I will say it again for emphasis, elitism is not the state of being elite nor aspiring to be elite. Elitist is not the state of mind of being elite. Actually being elite is more or less mutually exclusive with being elitist or participating in elitism.
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    Last edited by Kosmos992k; 05-02-2015 at 02:04 AM.