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    Im sick of

    I'm sick of healers blaming tanks because they spam medic and heal and pull agro. No matter how hard I try I cant pull it back if you are running around instead of towards me, I cant pull it back do to your bad decisions. Stop spamming heal if you are pulling the agro, I can pull it back if you quit your bad decisions.

    If you think you can tank better than me, please try other than that STFU.

    The warrior is clearly IMO the hard mode of all classes. I watched friends play both healer and DPS and I was amazed at how easy they had it compared to a tank. A tank has to control the battle while keeping everything on the battlefield in check, if anything goes wrong people are quick to blame the tank.

    Of course all this is my opinion but as a warrior I had to say it as I see it.
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    Running away from the tank with aggro is a common mistake..

    I am confused on how you say you lose aggro to a healer.
    What content are you talking about? low level or high level?

    In general I'd say you shouldn't be losing aggro to healing, especially in high level dungeons I cannot remember the last time I pulled off only by healing.

    WAR hardmode of all classes... unarguably harder to play than a PLD in raids but in dungeons hardmode of all classes... no.
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    That may be the case Spoekes but I've run into quite a few bad healers who loooooooove to overheal. The act of healing itself doesn't pull aggro, its when you continue to heal and it becomes overhealing that aggro is pulled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avyiur View Post
    That may be the case Spoekes but I've run into quite a few bad healers who loooooooove to overheal. The act of healing itself doesn't pull aggro, its when you continue to heal and it becomes overhealing that aggro is pulled.
    Healing and overhealing generate the same amount of aggro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PetiteMalFleur View Post
    Healing and overhealing generate the same amount of aggro.
    Uuuh, well, yea...
    But while Healing generates Aggro... Overhealing generates unnecessary Aggro...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    Uuuh, well, yea...
    But while Healing generates Aggro... Overhealing generates unnecessary Aggro...
    This is true and something all players should be made aware of, especially healers. However, my reply was in response to the comment that necessary healing generates no emnity at all. I assume Avyiur just needed to clarify their message and how you worded it is what they actually meant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PetiteMalFleur View Post
    Counter comment
    Oh, ok, sorry, skimmed on the posts, didnt actually read it well enough, so my bad there XP
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    Spoekes, I'll use LotA as an example. Though this goes for any fight. And also not just for healers. This happens with DPS as well.

    I get within Shield Lob distance of KB. Due to lag, reflexes and movement I may very well hit face pull distance. As I was running, a healer tossed Medica 2 on the Party just to get ready for the floor DoT. Or a ranged DPS proceeds to unload into their rotation with damage buffs. Before I can get in position or even get more than Fast Blade off, KB has snacked on a Healer and is looking at either another healer or DPS. Voke, still try to get in position. But seconds after that Voke, someone else that has unloaded is going.

    I know we don't have it here. But Sunders people!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morvik358 View Post
    Spoekes, I'll use LotA as an example. Though this goes for any fight. And also not just for healers. This happens with DPS as well.

    I get within Shield Lob distance of KB. Due to lag, reflexes and movement I may very well hit face pull distance. As I was running, a healer tossed Medica 2 on the Party just to get ready for the floor DoT. Or a ranged DPS proceeds to unload into their rotation with damage buffs. Before I can get in position or even get more than Fast Blade off, KB has snacked on a Healer and is looking at either another healer or DPS. Voke, still try to get in position. But seconds after that Voke, someone else that has unloaded is going.

    I know we don't have it here. But Sunders people!
    This is something I am going to comment upon. Provoke,early on,is kind of wasteful. In the first 10 seconds of an encounter, Shield Lob is enough to reclaim aggro. I reserve Provoke when I derped, died and wanna grab aggro as soon as I respawn
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    Muahah, creepy whm. They'd be better as Sch if they want precasts that much
    Your post said it all. I wrote a small guide for my FC about many of those things you mentionned, so I pasted it on Squenix too, so every healer will hopefully benefit from it : http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...hat-not-to-do.
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    Last edited by cgbspender; 04-29-2015 at 03:14 AM.

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