A small request of SE

[Cilia]

No, no, no, the crux of these arguments isn't "I could have carved a trail of blood out of Ul'dah." The crux is that "we didn't have an option to," when lots of role players have established their PC is a spitfire who won't take things lying down. We didn't get have the option to do anything about the frame job, and that kind of ruins the immersion - the real problem people have with the ending... but immersion is ruined in pretty much every cutscene, where things happen you don't influence and your character agrees to do pretty much everything everyone asks of them.

Also why I brought up the name thing, because if you really want immersion you should have a name that makes sense for your race/sex. (And it's a bit pedantic, but I'm pretty sure you were going for Panacea.)

People love being lauded by the NPCs in cutscenes, but when you're slandered now losing control is "unfair" and "my PC would never react like that" etc. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

[Durthane]

Actually, I dislike the constant reminders of how great we are supposed to be. But thats just me I suppose, never know what to do with a sincere compliment and most the compliments towards our characters don't feel sincere at that.

As to the constant immersion breaking, the small stuff we have to just overlook. We agree to be errand boys/girls because that's what the fetch quests require. It could be writen better but it's what it is. It leaves our characters motives up to us along with the bulk of their personalities, except the fact we have chronic hero syndrome which can't be helped.

In the ending SE dictated our characters motives much to tightly when it wasn't necessary, that's the problem I have with it.

Though a couple dialog choices would be nice on occasion, similar to the Gaius confrontation.

As to the name, I intentionally took out the second a, just naming a character the exact word would seem... I dunno, lazy? Cheap? XD

[Cilia]

Actually, I dislike the constant reminders of how great we are supposed to be. But thats just me I suppose, never know what to do with a sincere compliment and most the compliments towards our characters don't feel sincere at that.

As to the constant immersion breaking, the small stuff we have to just overlook. We agree to be errand boys/girls because that's what the fetch quests require. It could be writen better but it's what it is. It leaves our characters motives up to us along with the bulk of their personalities, except the fact we have chronic hero syndrome which can't be helped.

In the ending SE dictated our characters motives much to tightly when it wasn't necessary, that's the problem I have with it.

Though a couple dialog choices would be nice on occasion, similar to the Gaius confrontation.

I know, right? I'm glad I'm not the only one who got tired of being adored by Eorzea. I mean, I didn't do anything special... kind of why I'm a only a little worried about losing Hydaelyn's protection (no-win situations like Ultima). I'll earn the praise myself.

Chronic Hero Syndrome can be helped, it just takes time and effort SE doesn't have. Just like putting in alternate options people want but won't get (letting me steal Animus Books from G'jusana, f'ex).

Dictated your character's motives for accepting what happened? OK, pick one:
1. They knew they couldn't win in a fight against the two standing armies in Ul'dah.
2. They knew they had been outplayed and fighting would just make things worse.
3. They were in shock from Namamo's sudden and unexpected death (after the Sultana dies).
4. They understood what Raubahn and the Scions were willing to sacrifice to see things set right and fully intend to honor those sacrifices (after Raubahn frees you and the Scions cover your escape).
5. They're a damn dirty coward.

Your character already shakes their head at Teledji's accusation. Dialogue options?
Teledji Adeledji: "You! You did this!"
1. "It wasn't me!"
2. "You set this up!"
3. "I have no idea what's going on!"
4. "Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of elderberries!"
Teledji Adeledji: "Lies! I see no other suspects, and the room has but the one entrance! Men, arrest this viper!"

... and the ever-popular...
5. "..."
Teledji Adeledji: "So you admit your guilt? I see no other suspects, and the room has but the one entrance! Men, arrest this viper!"

There was no glory to be had, no version of this where we could have come out on top. Getting hung up on the details is pointless.

[MXMoondoggie]

Though a couple dialog choices would be nice on occasion, similar to the Gaius confrontation.

As to the name, I intentionally took out the second a, just naming a character the exact word would seem... I dunno, lazy? Cheap? XD

All MMO's have little to no sense of immersion that's just how they are by nature. I mean in every MMO you are this great hero and a special snowflake yet in every location you go for quests there are a million other people doing the same thing. There are people in game trolling each other and so on. Outside of a RP how do you find immersion in anything? This is not a single player RPG where the experience only needs to be tailored to one person playing the game on their own where programmed choices become possible. Some choices would just break the entire storyline like when Gaius asks you to join him you only have the option to tell him where to stick it. If you joined him the game would end. If the bad guys started their plot and tried to take down everyone but you kill them all with your super powers that ends the story. The reason they don't give you options is because the story just does not flow if you can break it. What would be the point of anything if you could just beat everyone up who came in the room to pin you with the death of Nanamo and then come and beat everyone else up? What does the story get out of that?

If you can already take down the threat there is none. There is no reason to go to Ishgard. There is no reason for them to open their gates to you and help you. The enemies need to be built as a legit threat before we take them down. And to the people saying "I took down a primal" etc we never did those things alone we went in with a team of powerful hand picked adventurers even the story acknowledges that they just change you to the team leader. Various Scions are also involved in that. You did nothing alone in the story.

[Seiko769]

Eh I shouldn't but I'll toss in my 2 cents.

I am sure Square is aware of the fact this game has a RP community otherwise there would be no Naming Conventions or the Roe dictionary to aid with said RP. Is RP an issue? No. However even knowing that said community exist they CAN'T tailor the game to them. I realize Square in a multi million dollar company with FFXIV alone racking in a considerable amount even after you subtract what they are tossing back into the game BUT that is NOT enough to warrant this:

Every class has an option to fight somehow like idk some random NPC tosses us our weapon or something. Or everyone can take the smart road and get the canon ending. or everyone can pick a point to stop and help the Scions.

That list could go on and on and on but the point here is MMO's with a rp community or not will NEVER have the resources to bend the story to having multiple paths so people really shouldn't be complaining about the fact that tney can't.