Sooo are SMN and SCH being separated?

[reality_check]

It seems like the original idea of having each class have multiples jobs has been scrapped.

Are we going to continue with SMN and SCH being attached at the Arcanist class and sharing job points? Or, can we finally have them separated?

It seems out of place after all these new developments around the new jobs.

[Reiryuu]

I'm not sure it can be done at this point in time. It'll be scrapped for future jobs, I'm sure. But for the current jobs it's likely going to stay.

[Lilyarel]

I hope so. They would be much easier to balance and change around when you dont have to worry about 2 classes being affected by the change.

[Zfz]

Frankly I'm disappointed that they didn't make use of the 3.0 opportunity to patch the SCH/SMN problem. The code-base is already there, with 3 new jobs having no base classes. So there's no excuse.

I think it's just a case of not wanting to spend time on it, perhaps because 3.0 development was already behind schedule.

[Averax]

If they did, it would open up many opportunities for SMN changes.

Hell, they could go full on Yuna from Dissida 012

But they'd have to divide up weapons so you can switch between base classes.

[Zfz]

They could have just made SMN the job continuation for ACN, and completely detach the SCH from ACN, making it the same thing as the 3.0 new jobs, but with the ACN and whatever requirement it has. Nothing else needs to be changed, not even the existing shared weapons. (Obviously 3.0 new items should be separated.)

[LineageRazor]

I wouldn't hold your breath anticipating this fix. SE's general philosophy seems to be to avoid repeating mistakes in the future, rather than to correct mistakes made in the past.

I'm mostly dissappointed that they, or anyone, ever considered this to be a mistake in the first place. There was so much potential with the job soul stone system that simply never got tapped...

[Cabalabob]

Personally I'm hoping when they find a job system for this game they actually like and stop making us pay to be a part of their system experiments, that they will consolidate all the jobs to fit into one system. I really hate how all over the place and constantly changing it is right now.

[Burningskull]

Just remember that "no base class" could just mean that they didn't create a base class for Dark Knight, Machinist, and Astrologian like they did with Rogue for Ninja. Dark Knight could still role off of War, Machinist could role off of Archer, and Astrologian could role off of Conjurer.

I think the only problem they really had with Sch and Smn is that they are two different roles for one class, where as Dark Knight is a tank the same as War, Machinist is a DPS the same as Archer, and Astrologian is a healer the same as Conjurer.

If I had my way SMN would be a melee mage that worked like Yuna in Dissidia, or the gameplay of Folklore.

[Noshpan]

I think the class system makes it improbably difficult for them to be able to separate Scholar from Summoner. And they were essentially added due to Conjurer/ White Mage being the only healing class/job in the game. (Though, up until level 30, Conjurer remains the sole healer class.)

Sure would be nice if the two were separated though.