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  1. #1
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    Eclipse's Avatar
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    Eclipse Haven
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    Astrologian Lv 70

    Why Attach Horn Style to the Face?

    I absolutely love the new race! I am very excited to play it. However, I am disappointed that the horns are connected to a face style, rather than being able to pick your face and horn style separately. Can this be adjusted? Is this just a limitation for the Benchmark?

    Also would like to request that perhaps we can have shades of black and shades of white for the horn colors. Many of us pay a lot of attention to our glamor, and go through great pains to colorize our schemes.

    Thank you so much for releasing the Benchmark!

    Don't get me wrong, I am enjoying it. Just some general feedback from a few people who are experimenting with character creation right now.

    Thanks!
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    Conleth Cirino
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    The awkward hourglass shape of the males' bodies make them look awful in virtually all armors too :-/

    I agree with you about the horns being attached to the face-type, that's severely disappointing.

    So is the lack of horn coloration.

    And that we still don't have ANY new beards after all this time.

    Adding to the beards, a goatee would've looked awesome on this race.

    Or any more facial features or tattoos for other races.

    Lastly, that we can't change skin-color in game without paying for a Fantasia.

    It sucks if say I wanted to try out red skin that I'll color-clash with a ton of gear with no option to change it later without paying a premium.

    Also, look how close these two are to one another.....

    http://i.imgur.com/lsRThrE.png

    Quote Originally Posted by SongJoohee View Post
    Yeah, when you aim to make 2 characters look identical they're going to look similar regardless of race...
    Eh, just pointing it out. Sure, an Au Ra can be made to appear very different from a Hyur but the skeleton appearing so similar is disappointing.

    I just wish they'd legitimately created a more differentiated race in terms of build/physique but that's just me.
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    Last edited by Chibilidawg; 04-27-2015 at 05:23 PM.

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    Ivera Ivalice
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    Sargatanas
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    I was going to make a thread about this too. I have to demand/insist that they separate the horns from the face. There's horns that I absolutely love on a face that I don't want to use. There's a better face that I love but the horns aren't great especially after seeing the other horns I really want to use.
    Not to mention the scales are tied to the face which is fine, but with the horns also tied to the face, that limits our customization a lot, especially on the most important part of a character, the face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chibilidawg View Post
    Also, look how close these two are to one another.....

    http://i.imgur.com/lsRThrE.png
    Yeah, when you aim to make 2 characters look identical they're going to look similar regardless of race. Same can be said for every race in the game. Unless you're just pointing to the pose, which are very different.

    They have a tonne of different choices in the benchmark and you can definitely make characters that look absolutely different from any of the other races in the game.
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    Last edited by SongJoohee; 04-27-2015 at 05:21 PM.

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    Shuu Naranol
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    Meh. It's the same thing as Miqo'te having highlight-able tail tips locked to certain tail types. Or different (just black I think, but still) colored ears being locked to certain hairstyles. Both are infuriatingly pointless, neither has been changed since launch. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    Meh. It's the same thing as Miqo'te having highlight-able tail tips locked to certain tail types. Or different (just black I think, but still) colored ears being locked to certain hairstyles. Both are infuriatingly pointless, neither has been changed since launch. :/
    It's a bit different then geometry stuck in the side of the head. They should be able to just be stuck in any head. What you mention is color variations which are based on textures that can't be seperated out as easily
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    Ulath Skullsplitter
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    I think every race has something like this that is locked to certain faces. Since male highlander is what i messed with most I know the beard options are locked to certain faces which sucks. Everyone with a certain kind of facial hair all have the same face to go with it.
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    Totori Tori
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chibilidawg View Post
    Also, look how close these two are to one another.....

    http://i.imgur.com/lsRThrE.png



    Eh, just pointing it out. Sure, an Au Ra can be made to appear very different from a Hyur but the skeleton appearing so similar is disappointing.

    I just wish they'd legitimately created a more differentiated race in terms of build/physique but that's just me.
    If you can't see some distinct differences between the two despite trying to make them look as similar as possible you are just ignoring them because you don't want to see them. Au'Ras are slimmer (overall), different pose structure (back and legs are most noticable), while a thinner waist they have HIPS unlike midlander and miqo'te.
    That said, it's most likely that they used the hyur or miqo'te model as a base and altered it to their needs and that was pretty much exactly what was expected ever since they showed them. Similarities are bound to exist.
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    Shuu Naranol
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    Quote Originally Posted by IveraIvalice View Post
    It's a bit different then geometry stuck in the side of the head. They should be able to just be stuck in any head. What you mention is color variations which are based on textures that can't be seperated out as easily
    Pretty sure it could have been separated as easily as all the hairstyles, they could've designed them like that from the start: want it, it's there; don't want it, no need to bother with it. One of those things that should be universal across the board, so to say, but for some reason SE decided to just lock it.

    And I have a bet if they had to explain it, that reason would be "to save bandwidth" - ie. instead of having a number of combination for two or more different categories, there's only one number: a closed set of choices within one category.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    Pretty sure it could have been separated as easily as all the hairstyles, they could've designed them like that from the start: want it, it's there; don't want it, no need to bother with it. One of those things that should be universal across the board, so to say, but for some reason SE decided to just lock it.

    And I have a bet if they had to explain it, that reason would be "to save bandwidth" - ie. instead of having a number of combination for two or more different categories, there's only one number: a closed set of choices within one category.
    That is what I was thinking. I really hope this is just a limitation of the Benchmark.
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