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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Hmm... I remember saying in past 'DX11 Coming!' thread that it wouldn't be the 'second coming' for the game. Admittedly, it was more about Square not upgrading the textures, but this is more of the same sentiment. I don't really understand why people were so convinced that the differences were going to be 'night and day'. It's just DirectX, it's not a rebuilt game engine.
    We're not asking them to rebuild anything, we're asking for Hardware Anti-Aliasing, which isn't a major adjustment.

    The point of the DX11 client was to add additional graphical options, this would be another one.

    No-one is asking for a miracle, just what is considered standard.


    Quote Originally Posted by Brianmj View Post
    Can't you force an AA mode with profile settings if you have an Nvidia card?
    No you can't.
    This would require a bit of adjusting as to how the game actually renders things in the scene per frame
    It literally can't be forced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hali View Post
    We're not asking them to rebuild anything, we're asking for Hardware Anti-Aliasing, which isn't a major adjustment.

    The point of the DX11 client was to add additional graphical options, this would be another one.

    No-one is asking for a miracle, just what is considered standard.




    No you can't.
    This would require a bit of adjusting as to how the game actually renders things in the scene per frame
    It literally can't be forced.
    Yup, DX11 still won't let you force AA in the nvidia/AMD control panel. And sadly Gedosato+post processing MSAA only work on the DX9 client. If not for HBAO and the amazing water I'd not bother at all with dx11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nimlothien View Post
    Yup, DX11 still won't let you force AA in the nvidia/AMD control panel. And sadly Gedosato+post processing MSAA only work on the DX9 client. If not for HBAO and the amazing water I'd not bother at all with dx11
    Have you tried custom resolutions?, you can still run the DX 11 benchmark at higher resolution if you are not doing so already through the GPU drivers directly.

    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=509076
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    The one thing I really wanted from the DX11 client was better AA options >.>
    Might as well keep using DX9 + Gedosato/post processing if we're not getting better AA options
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    Due to no proper AA or render scaling options, seriously, they can add that in to the game, downsampling from a higher res to get sharper details however this mucks up the UI scaling a crap ton and forced to limit my self to 15% extra resolution otherwise the UI just cannot keep up, come on JP companies, there are resolutions that are bigger then 1920x1080p, its bloody stone age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    Due to no proper AA or render scaling options, seriously, they can add that in to the game, downsampling from a higher res to get sharper details however this mucks up the UI scaling a crap ton and forced to limit my self to 15% extra resolution otherwise the UI just cannot keep up, come on JP companies, there are resolutions that are bigger then 1920x1080p, its bloody stone age.
    I'm downsampling from 1440p to 1080p and that's just about doable with the UI at mostly 140%
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    Due to no proper AA or render scaling options, seriously, they can add that in to the game, downsampling from a higher res to get sharper details however this mucks up the UI scaling a crap ton and forced to limit my self to 15% extra resolution otherwise the UI just cannot keep up, come on JP companies, there are resolutions that are bigger then 1920x1080p, its bloody stone age.
    OMG
    #firstworldproblems

    1st time I've heard such an asinine statement made about 1080p resolution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    OMG
    #firstworldproblems

    1st time I've heard such an asinine statement made about 1080p resolution.
    Only for a console user, PC users have enjoyed high resolution for years now beyond that of 1920x1080.

    How many years have the likes of 2560x1440 monitors been in existence?

    And if you enjoyed the opportunity to downsample from a higher resolution, you will notice a increase in visual fidelity, the very reason some of us who spent money on the likes of a Nvidia 780 could enjoy, why spend money on something like that and stick to stone age settings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    Only for a console user, PC users have enjoyed high resolution for years now beyond that of 1920x1080.

    How many years have the likes of 2560x1440 monitors been in existence?

    And if you enjoyed the opportunity to downsample from a higher resolution, you will notice a increase in visual fidelity, the very reason some of us who spent money on the likes of a Nvidia 780 could enjoy, why spend money on something like that and stick to stone age settings?
    Why spend money on something that can render at higher resolutions only to downsample the crap out of it?

    Yoshi has said before that resolution doesn't replace image quality, and he's right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Why spend money on something that can render at higher resolutions only to downsample the crap out of it?

    Yoshi has said before that resolution doesn't replace image quality, and he's right.
    Says the person that has not tried it, I am down sampling FF14 right now and check my link above, the evidence is right there, the reason to down sample is that many games are not being released with hardware AA, so the next best thing is to down sample, these type of hardware handle is just fine and are designed to have games cranked up a notch while still maintaining performance.
    Also jaggies make the image quality look bad, making the image sharper improves the fidelity, theres always ways to improve the image quality and going beyond 1080 p is part of that and this has always been true, its been a proven fact, why you are contesting this I have no idea, us PC players can benefit from the extra bits of DX 11 AND increased resolution, we can have all of the cake and eat it.
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    Last edited by raelgun; 04-28-2015 at 06:29 AM.

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