When should WHM use Stoneskin I?

[416to305]

Hey everyone quick question. I see that Stoneskin II does all party members but the normal one is one person at a time. I just unlocked it at 34 but since I have to do it on one person at a time, and it doesn't last long, should I be casting it on the whole party before a boss or just the tank? A tank did a ready check and I said no, then cast it on everyone and then said yes but I don't think that's necessary as the next time I just cast it while the battle had started already as no one was taking damage. I always do protect at the start but not entirely clear on the best proper usage of Stoneskin when leveling up to 50 when I don't have Stoneskin II? Thanks!

[Seraphyel]

I just give it to everybody at the start of a dungeon and afterwards before bosses. Most likely I'll apply it to damage dealers out of combat. I don't see any use applying it to a tank all the time.

And remember, Stoneskin I can be cast on fighting targets, Stoneskin II can't.

[technole]

Stoneskin just the tank for trash pulls (especially those larger ones in SV/DD/AV). For final bosses I would just stoneskin everyone, negates some party damage just in-case tank doesn't get that aggro right away.

[Risvertasashi]

Stoneskin just the tank for trash pulls (especially those larger ones in SV/DD/AV). For final bosses I would just stoneskin everyone, negates some party damage just in-case tank doesn't get that aggro right away.

I recommend stoneskinning everyone in the party. If a DPS pulls, eats an avoidable, or something else unplanned happens, this gives healers a bit more breathing room.

At level 50, swiftcast + stoneskin 2 makes this very easy to do as the group is running to the next pull.

[technole]

I recommend stoneskinning everyone in the party. If a DPS pulls, eats an avoidable, or something else unplanned happens, this gives healers a bit more breathing room.

At level 50, swiftcast + stoneskin 2 makes this very easy to do as the group is running to the next pull.

Bosses yes, swift+stoneskin 2 when you can. Trash mob pulls no, I'd rather have swift for holy stun goodness. Tank can play their role and provoke off a stray on a dps/healer.

[VanilleFang]

Bosses yes, swift+stoneskin 2 when you can. Trash mob pulls no, I'd rather have swift for holy stun goodness. Tank can play their role and provoke off a stray on a dps/healer.

This.

If the tank is doing their job, and the DPS are dodging bad stuff, then you generally don't even need to apply SS on the DPS between mobs (Stone Vigil HM is an example of an exception with those dragons using that undodgable AoE).

[Risvertasashi]

Bosses yes, swift+stoneskin 2 when you can. Trash mob pulls no, I'd rather have swift for holy stun goodness. Tank can play their role and provoke off a stray on a dps/healer.

I've never really had trouble getting holy off without swiftcast (and SC isn't up for every pull anyway), but to each their own I guess.

This.

If the tank is doing their job, and the DPS are dodging bad stuff, then you generally don't even need to apply SS on the DPS between mobs (Stone Vigil HM is an example of an exception with those dragons using that undodgable AoE).

Well, yes. Outside of tankbusters, stoneskin is never ever needed. Some may find the extra margin of error helpful, though; a lot of people don't play perfectly, especially in the DF.

[technole]

I've never really had trouble getting holy off without swiftcast (and SC isn't up for every pull anyway), but to each their own I guess.

I don't think anyone does. But swiftcast+holy some may find that extra margin of error helpful to get off cleric stance immediately if-needed. To each their own of course.

[Saseal]

I just do,
-beginning of dungeon
-start casting just before the last monster is dead (sometimes I just forget or get lazy and just swiftcase SS II as we're all running off. It's not often I need SC for Raise when traversing trash mobs in dungeons)
-Before a boss pull
-After boss pull
-If I'm wary of spike damage on the tank
-SS myself (when I'm not frantic healing) if I find myself having a bad dodgey day

-and sometimes I'll just SC a SS II before everyone leaves the dungeon, to give some buffs for the road, if I liked the party. lol

Unfortunately, you're stuck SSing one at a time till you hit SSII. You can use Presence of Mind to speed it up if you really wanted to, at that stage, since you might not have Holy yet.

There was mention of SC for Holy - the only times I ever SC a Holy is for defensive use to stun things when shit is hitting fans (such as mid-spawning trash mobs in raids that tanks haven't picked up. I'll do it to stun trash thats on me, my co-healer or if I can identify the alliance member being hit is a squishy so they're not killed/extend time for peeps to get to killing the ADD(s)) or if theres just too much mob on the tank and need a few second breather to catch up (Bene + SC + Holy + Catch up).
But that's just me o_o

[416to305]

Perfect thanks that's what I thought.