PLD any better than WAR?

[Izsha]

No, i didn't ignore bulwark. I've talked about it a few times now. And your block rate is is really closer to 30%. The rate/10+10 is an easy estimate. The actual number is 1 block is 0.00086. Or 10=0.86% instead of 1%. No tower or kite shield has a 100% black rate under bulwark so if that is what you are depending on for a 1 hit phy tank buster you are gambling with a wipe. It's a great cd for multi hits, or general mitigation for, say, adds. But for single hit moves it is a last resort (let alone magic attakcs). My post was explicitly about big tank busters and effective hp, so yes I discounted bulwark and made a note about it to show I didn't forget it. It's situational. Raven claw? Great(phy multi hit). Akh morn? Useless (magic).

I've said repeatedly that pld has superior mitigation for steady incoming damage due to their shield (shiva ex being the best example. No real tank busters just high fast auto attacks) while wars excel at predictable, frequent tank busters via IB because it's a rampart on a 20 sec CD.

As for pld pulling threat as off tank, it's not a problem if the or is a nin for slashing allowing the war to path butcher butchers rotation, or its weak content and war can eye butch butch. No its not possible to keep threat lead on equal geared pld if the war is trying to do all 3 combos. Put your nin to work :]

Pld doing 123 in sword oath generates 727 pot per gcd in threat.
War doing path butch butch and 1 IB per cycle in defiance generates 1002 enmity per gcd. (955 if using fracture).

Just on the face of it equally geared tanks the war has a substantial 38% enmity lead (thanks maim!). 150%ish stronger auto attacks don't make up for 120% maimed auto attacks under defiance. Circle of scorn isn't going to kill that nearly 40% enmity lead on war. Unchained+zerk have similar boost as fight of flight over time, but war can adjust combo to squeeze in an extra butchers instead of path while that's up to gain an enmity edge when factoring atk buffs.

A full vit war will struggle vs full str pld ot. But that's why I said similarly geared. War in combination melded/slaying can fend off a str pld OT pretty handily and keep path up about 80 to 90% of the time and let the nin maintain slashing. It works pretty well, just be cautious immediately after a tank swap and its all gravy (dat crit rng after tank swaps is always fun lol).

tldr: similarly geared and skilled wars can mt vs str sword oath pld without loosing threat. Trouble is war in all these scenarios requires a bit more finesse to manage, and Joe schmoe in DF probably isn't pulling it off. But that doesn't mean the class isn't capable of all these things.