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    Asierid's Avatar
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    Saerin Zei
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ceodore View Post
    Foresight
    A worthless ability. 5-6%~ lower damage against a boss chunking you for 4-6k a hit every minute and a half? k. You use it when you have nothing else, you don't rely on it. So basically we have Vengence/IB/Thrill (Doesn't even increase eHP much either) vs Sentinel/Rampart/Bulwark/Foresight(ha). That's fair.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ceodore View Post
    While not mitigating damage, HP recovery means less work on your healer to recover your hp.
    Your healer is not relying on your meager path/bloodbath skills to keep you alive against progression bosses. Cure/2 is still healing you for the thousands, self-heals or not. This is moot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ceodore View Post
    Paladin can mitigate Melee damage done to a party member, so the usage of Cover is very limited. While Holmgang won't mitigate damage to a party member, its capability to keep a mob on you...
    Unless they are casters or are using an ability. Another moot point. Having to burn holmgang "to keep a mob on you" means you need to stop using it as a crutch (Which isn't even it's purpose) and get better at managing threat. Hollowed ground is an immunity with freedom of movement, Holmgang is a wannabe CD, no immunity, roots you, and heaven forbid if that mob is just out of range. It's flat out better.
    Cover has way more utility in the form of heavy boss abilities such as MB on Titan EX.

    Both tanks can do anything in the game, the difference is pretty small and it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. But to say PLD isn't better than WAR in that small gap (especially considering this argument has been done to death since the WAR rework back in 2.x) is just being ignorant to the numbers and the way the game works. There are few fights where IB is needed compared to the flat, passive (and using proper rotations in those CDs) reductions of PLD, most of the game is based around scripted heavy hits around the rotated cooldowns of PLD rather than the "Oh shit IB" of WAR. Plus they do way better OT damage as proven in this forum before.

    Oh, and Ninja's bring slashing now. We can stop trying to argue that WAR using Eye is some kind of gamebreaking utility buff.
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    Last edited by Asierid; 04-27-2015 at 09:30 AM.