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    kenn_gonz's Avatar
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    Kenn Reineir
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    Warrior: Str or Vit?

    So I've been researching on whether a warrior should focus on str or vit and I've come up blank. Most of the stuff I've read are either 50/50 or possibly outdated. I looked through the forums and can't find an answer either. I just turned 50 and I'm now in the process of beefing up my item level. I currently got all 30 of my bonus attributes on str and currently undecided on what accessories to spend my tomes of soldiery on, str or vit.
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    M'kael Jin
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    Vit during progression, Str for farm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn_gonz View Post
    So I've been researching on whether a warrior should focus on str or vit and I've come up blank. Most of the stuff I've read are either 50/50 or possibly outdated. I looked through the forums and can't find an answer either. I just turned 50 and I'm now in the process of beefing up my item level. I currently got all 30 of my bonus attributes on str and currently undecided on what accessories to spend my tomes of soldiery on, str or vit.
    If you're a fresh 50 just go full vit. You might actually lower group DPS by going full strength, because the healer will need to watch you more carefully.

    When you can comfortably manage the level of content you aim for, shift into str.
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    As a War myself, go vit. Your role is a tank, yes dps is good, but if each member of the party plays their role well, instances go well. Hit the vit and tank like a champ. Mix it up down the track if you like, if you really like the idea of str, maybe a dps class is calling you.
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    Last edited by Carvaka; 04-27-2015 at 10:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carvaka View Post
    As a War myself, go vit. Your role is a tank, yes dps is good, but if each member of the party plays there role well, instances go well. Hit the vit and tank like a champ. Mix it up down the track if you like, if you really like the idea of str, maybe a dps class is calling you.
    "Your role is tank", which consists both of soaking the damage and holding the enmity. Strength helps damage, which helps gain enmity, which helps you soak the damage.
    Just like healers who can, or are expected to, DPS in their downtime, tanks are very well in the right for finding a balance between enough VIT to run the content with enough STR to output above average damage.
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    You always want to use as little VIT as possible. Any HP that is not needed is wasted. On the other hand, STR increases your damage output, your threat generation, and the amount you parry/block for.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carvaka View Post
    As a War myself, go vit. Your role is a tank, yes dps is good, but if each member of the party plays there role well, instances go well. Hit the vit and tank like a champ. Mix it up down the track if you like, if you really like the idea of str, maybe a dps class is calling you.
    That's about the worst advice I've heard outside of "don't DPS as a healer".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carvaka View Post
    As a War myself, go vit. Your role is a tank, yes dps is good, but if each member of the party plays their role well, instances go well. Hit the vit and tank like a champ. Mix it up down the track if you like, if you really like the idea of str, maybe a dps class is calling you.
    I stand corrected by more experienced players. Having said that, I am a relatively new tank, so good to learn.
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    there is two way to gain force on a war :
    Put force with your point, use of force accesories but also use crafted vit + force accesories

    To me you can get ride of 500 HP and gain the more force you can , the better way would be put your point to vitality with your level point,
    and use ilevel110 craft melee accesories + vita or tank accesories + force.
    Choose the main stat , i saw many war advoid having parade on them and try to get crit or deter bonus when them reach the vita +force cap.
    Parade is needed ?
    when you get a parade succes it's just luck for a war, you don't get it when your healer need, so i think you can do without it. also pld have more shield swipe pop with more parade on them, this increase the dps if you do it, parade on pld give you luck to protect yourself and also to inscrease your dps, so the parade stat is more interesting on pld than a war.
    The War main stat would be for me Vita/force/crit/deter
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carvaka View Post
    I stand corrected by more experienced players. Having said that, I am a relatively new tank, so good to learn.
    No, don't just lie down and assume that they're right. You're mostly right as well. A Tank must indeed prioritize survival before damage and if everyone else is doing well you'll certainly beat the enemy whether you're speccing for Mitigation or Damage; the only difference is in the time taken to finish the instance. The Tank who specs toward Strength isn't intrinsically bad as long as they're continuing to make sure that their survival is certain, but the Tank who puts damage before survival is the one who might as well just play a DPS class. This is why many of the people giving advice here keep saying things like "get X VIT and then go STR" or "stay in VIT until you're comfortable with the job/role/fight". As a self proclaimed "new tank", you are absolutely doing things right at the moment. Just keep getting that practice and gear in and you can increase your flexibility
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carvaka View Post
    I stand corrected by more experienced players. Having said that, I am a relatively new tank, so good to learn.
    You're not really wrong for thinking what you did. More HP is a safety net against mistakes made by the team, which is certainly a justified plan B to have on hand. Most experienced tanks are speaking from a point where we're overgeared, highly practiced, and will almost always run content with teams that make few to no mistakes, allowing for a pure DPS build. The line is certainly flexible, but is still formed around your (and your party's) equipment strength, playing skill, and practice.

    It's just a more flexible line than your first post implied.
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