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    I suppose some people may be new to the vertical growth vs FFXI ish horizontal growth but I feel like getting the best weapon in the game with glamour opportunity (and just having a reliable weapon to progress, though grindy) was/is reward enough.

    Beyond I guess just keeping the weapon to move on to the next step I don't see there really needing to be more reward for what is a natural vertical progression reward. Personally I thought they would significantly nerf 2.0 relic questline and just carry it forward, and then add the option to buy in at the 3.0 stage (spend a couple mil (server based cost) or spend the 5-10 hours doing the nerfed grind).

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaft View Post
    Why? Gear is meant to be replaced. It's just a stepping stone to allow you to tackle harder content and acquire better gear. We got our relics, our relics served their purpose, and now we're replacing them with something better.
    Basically this :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaft View Post
    Why? Gear is meant to be replaced. It's just a stepping stone to allow you to tackle harder content and acquire better gear. We got our relics, our relics served their purpose, and now we're replacing them with something better.
    Yes, but if they throw all that out the window, frankly I won't ever bother doing another relic. It's one thing to replace easily acquired tome and dungeon gear, relic is something else. It's so legendary we might as well throw it away? Haha.

    If it means so little in HW, I will never trust that a relic quest is worth doing again.

    "Just don't do it then!" Yeah, I probably won't. Because apparently "legendary relic" means nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaft View Post
    Why? Gear is meant to be replaced. It's just a stepping stone to allow you to tackle harder content and acquire better gear. We got our relics, our relics served their purpose, and now we're replacing them with something better.
    Let me phrase it like this then...

    I feel sorry for those individuals that don't accept this course of actions.
    As personally I feel the same way as you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seida View Post
    Yes, but if they throw all that out the window, frankly I won't ever bother doing another relic. It's one thing to replace easily acquired tome and dungeon gear, relic is something else. It's so legendary we might as well throw it away? Haha.

    If it means so little in HW, I will never trust that a relic quest is worth doing again.

    "Just don't do it then!" Yeah, I probably won't. Because apparently "legendary relic" means nothing.
    That's just life in MMOs. Every legendary weapon on WoW, which took months to obtain, was replaced by expansion loot, never to be used again. But for the time we used them, they served our purpose. And now we're on to bigger and better things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seida View Post
    Yes, but if they throw all that out the window, frankly I won't ever bother doing another relic. It's one thing to replace easily acquired tome and dungeon gear, relic is something else. It's so legendary we might as well throw it away? Haha.

    If it means so little in HW, I will never trust that a relic quest is worth doing again.

    "Just don't do it then!" Yeah, I probably won't. Because apparently "legendary relic" means nothing.
    What did you think it meant when the level cap was being raised?

    When I heard that HW will raise the level cap, I quit my relic grind. We all knew it was coming..

    That's the nature of MMOs, you upgrade gear, it becomes obsolete, you upgrade again, rinse and repeat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenJoe View Post
    What did you think it meant when the level cap was being raised?

    When I heard that HW will raise the level cap, I quit my relic grind. We all knew it was coming..
    Well, they could've made that further upgrading your Relic would also increase it's lvl usage.
    So in the end it would've ended up as a lvl 60 weapon.

    But we now know that's not the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seida View Post
    Yes, but if they throw all that out the window, frankly I won't ever bother doing another relic. It's one thing to replace easily acquired tome and dungeon gear, relic is something else. It's so legendary we might as well throw it away? Haha.

    If it means so little in HW, I will never trust that a relic quest is worth doing again.

    "Just don't do it then!" Yeah, I probably won't. Because apparently "legendary relic" means nothing.
    did you honestly expect anything else? To have thought that the ARR relics would remain important or meaningful in HW, no offense, is just delusional. I am working on my third zodiac weapon right now, fully knowing that I'd be replacing them at some point in HW, because, that's what you do in an rpg. You get gear, you replace gear. ESPECIALLY in an MMORPG. Guess what else, I'll be doing the new relic stuff as well. and I'll expect that those will be replaced as well in the expansion after, cuz that's logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    Well, they could've made that further upgrading your Relic would also increase it's lvl usage.
    So in the end it would've ended up as a lvl 60 weapon.

    But we now know that's not the case.
    I don't think SE wants to alienate the new players that are starting from scratch by making them go through the relic grind for a lv 50, obsolete weapon when they're lv 60.


    Imagine how turned off we would've all been if upon reaching lv 50, before we could start the relic quest, we would have to grind out the 1.0 end-game content for 50+ hours (provided that 1.0 wasn't completely wiped) We can't really have that kind of expectation and 3.0 is much the same way. HW is 3.0 not 2.6
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    Last edited by GenJoe; 04-26-2015 at 03:29 PM.

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    http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...d_other_stuff/
    "POE-cap isn't being raised/removed because IL130 is a little high in the early stages of Ishgarde. (previous off record interviews mentioned that they'll be relevant up to l55)"

    Seems to me ironwork/dreadwyrm will be good for first half of expansion only.
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    would of been nice if they could of had our old relic be broken in the conflict and have to be remodeled into the new stuff rather then having something you have worked hard for being rubbish to throw away
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