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  1. #11
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    Evantide's Avatar
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    Evantide Darkfyre
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    Coeurl
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    Paladin Lv 60
    I tested this out, and on average it is .88 seconds slower than pushing the attack abilities manually.

    This is for the whole 3 ability aggro chain, not between each attack.
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  2. #12
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    Raela Sarinelle
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace View Post
    Use a macro for your berserker. So the healer knows when to esuna/leech your pacification. Something like "I just used Berserk" "x seconds left", stuff like that.
    The utility of those macros is highly debatable. Esuna/leeches cannot be precast in this case, so they have to wait to see the buff.. Then cast time.. At most, you'll save 1-2 seconds and healer will lose a gcd.
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  3. #13
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    Lucille Wallace
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by raela View Post
    The utility of those macros is highly debatable. Esuna/leeches cannot be precast in this case, so they have to wait to see the buff.. Then cast time.. At most, you'll save 1-2 seconds and healer will lose a gcd.
    Dunno, I pre-cast it when the timer on berserk doesn't mark any number and it usually lands on time.
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  4. #14
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace View Post
    Dunno, I pre-cast it when the timer on berserk doesn't mark any number and it usually lands on time.
    Yep, that's more reliable than any announcement macro. Macro announcement for this is useless spam because the Berserk timer is there anyway.

    And to the OP: for tanking macros, announcement macros or even a "warning! <se.1><se.2>" general-purpose macro would be useful. In some fights there are times when the tank have little to do, and watching out for a specific enemy spell cast or skill, then warning everyone by pressing that warning macro, would be very useful. Even the best DPS/Healers sometimes can forget about something and that warning macro may just save you a wipe.
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    Last edited by Zfz; 04-26-2015 at 09:15 AM.
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  5. #15
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Only macro I use on tank in combat right now is
    /ac "Fight or Flight" <wait.1>
    /ac "Bloodbath"
    I have low SS on my pld, and can fit both in a gdc, so why not?

    I find macroing text to abilities (berserk/hallowed/provoke) causes issues when you need them to go off *right now*, so I don't use them. An "I'm pulling in XX" is fine
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  6. #16
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    Isaac Direstone
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by raela View Post
    The utility of those macros is highly debatable. Esuna/leeches cannot be precast in this case, so they have to wait to see the buff.. Then cast time.. At most, you'll save 1-2 seconds and healer will lose a gcd.
    When I'm healing, if I can, I try to remove all debuffs.

    Seeing a debuff time out that was completely Esuna/leech'able, and I had the time for it (not emergency healing), leaves a little mark on my pride.
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  7. #17
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    Louis Victor
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    i think the only necessary one is the pull macro. everything else can be pressed by itself. hallowed ground (in a real oh sh*t moment) might not make it in time if you tie it to a macro.
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  8. #18
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    Cara Verant
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    You should have a Provoke announcement macro for 2-tank groups. You don't need anything fancy; I've just got "Provoking <t>!!" But letting the other tank know that you're taking his target gives him notice to stop attacking so you can take it away without a fight.
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  9. #19
    Player Zaft's Avatar
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    Leo Strut
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by raela View Post
    The utility of those macros is highly debatable. Esuna/leeches cannot be precast in this case, so they have to wait to see the buff.. Then cast time.. At most, you'll save 1-2 seconds and healer will lose a gcd.
    Not really. If your healer actually knows how to handle cleansing (aka, the moment the debuff hits 0), you, as the WAR, will not lose a single GCD. Your berserk should kick in immediately after your final ability, which means you're stuck in the GCD for somewhere around 2.4s. That's more than enough time a cleanse to land and you'll be right back to your rotation.

    That being said, I obviously don't expect a cleanse if you're in the middle of something important. But that's also my responsibility as a WAR to time my berserks properly.
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    Zertraya Rouge
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    Zodiark
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    Ninja Lv 90
    By the way, I've never taken any notice of macro options at all, since starting on the game in the middle of last year, until just recently.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    And to the OP: for tanking macros, announcement macros or even a "warning! <se.1><se.2>" general-purpose macro would be useful. In some fights there are times when the tank have little to do, and watching out for a specific enemy spell cast or skill, then warning everyone by pressing that warning macro, would be very useful. Even the best DPS/Healers sometimes can forget about something and that warning macro may just save you a wipe.
    questions...
    Is "warning! <se.1><se.2>" the first thing I put in a macro after /ac or somewhere else?
    Also, would I need Berserk in somewhere too?

    This may be slow, but I could alter the timing to /wait 3.00 instead of 2.50 with each action.
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