Alexander Normal difficulty...

[Yumi_umi]

Most ppl can't even do/ stand steps of faith...
So having alexander normal in df will be like wipe 3 times gg ok disband.
But woot now ppl can actually be like i have some kind of endgame to do. Instead of stuff like t13 is the one and ony end all goal every player should have.

[Gardes]

Actually kinda worried that alex nm will be too easy and released in one go. Cause then the casuals will whine that they still have nothing to do and probably set their sights on alex hm to try to get it nerfed too. I really hope that doesn't happen but the way people post in that coil completion rate thread and various other thread has me worried.

[Nominous]

Interesting. I somehow don't think Savage is going to be as bad as some people make it out to be. And if it is, then whatever loot system they haven't announced for it yet, must be really good. Like... really good.

Current Coil+Echo sounds a lot like, "Find the mechanics, and then don't worry about DPS/Healing checks", to me. But the difficulty jump still needs to make sense, right? You can't just have Normal mode be almost faceroll tier, and then have Hard Mode be... literal Savage. It's too big a gap in difficulty and I doubt that's how they'll handle it. Not to mention, Savage Second Coil didn't drop any gear, so there was no possibility of making it any easier on you. For World First type teams, it'll still be just as tough, but for the general public, a few clears on the lower end "Turns" will make checks slightly easier, I think.

[Zumi]

People beat FCoB in the first week it was out. So they were probably like, yea we need this to be harder so that doesn't happen again.

[TheRogueX]

Cause then the casuals will whine that they still have nothing to do

??? Are you daft? It's not the "casuals" that whine about a lack of endgame content ("nothing to do"), it's the "hardcore" who finish everything in the first week. "Casuals" are still trying to finish T5.

[Gardes]

??? Are you daft? It's not the "casuals" that whine about a lack of endgame content ("nothing to do"), it's the "hardcore" who finish everything in the first week. "Casuals" are still trying to finish T5.

Those people you mention just unsub and wait for the next tier's release and they're small in number. The casuals don't whine like that right now because they have something to do that they can't beat. When alex nm rolls out it'll be cleared in 1 day and it'll basically turn into an extra weekly ct series. Then they'll set their sights to the next unreachable thing.

[Zumi]

In a sense casuals are gaining a raid to do. There will be wipes in Normal mode for the first couple of days but once its figured out like CT casuals will have another thing to farm each week since it has a CT lockout they can keep queuing up till they get whatever gear it was that they wanted. Then they will have the 24 man raid that comes out in 3.1 which will be the successor to CT. While hardcore players will be doing savage for the best gear.

[Songi]

As long as the gear is significantly better than the easy mode version, then I'll be going back week after week to get what is mine. If it's only like a small minor 5ilvl upgrade or some junk...I dunno I mean, having just cleared T7 savage I already made a vow to never go back in there unless its to take some cool screenshots of getting frozen by cursed voice/shriek/petrification.

[Zaft]

??? Are you daft? It's not the "casuals" that whine about a lack of endgame content ("nothing to do"), it's the "hardcore" who finish everything in the first week. "Casuals" are still trying to finish T5.

To be fair, I rarely if ever see hardcore players complain about lack of content. They usually just unsub until new content comes out. The people who complain are the ones who think the content is too hard and the people who complain about content being too easy (but haven't actually completed any of it, because those other pesky 7 people are holding them back).

[AdamFyi]

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Alexander will be available to everyone once it is up. There is no restriction to enter it other than character job level and possibly item level. They've stated a bunch of times that you don't need to complete coil to access Alexander and that the story mode difficulty would be like coil with the Echo. o:

I think what Gardes is pointing out is that at some point, people will be calling out for nerfs to the Hard Mode of Alexander for the sole purpose of better loot and instant gratification. The difficulty would be higher than that of (at least) FCoB. So obviously, not a lot of players will be able to clear it. Soon you would see the, "I want the best loot! Why do Hardcores get everything?!" crowd demanding for nerfs. Evident in previous topics, some players do not like nerfs to the raids (with the exception of the Echo). Anyway, that's my take on what they said. xD