Stone III Confirmed for WHM

[Coltvoyance]

Taken from the new Benchmark video.



Pretty cool looking..... but also disappointing that one of our new skills is taken up by another Stone attack.... Maybe it has some cool after effect that will boost other Party Members DPS.

If you havent seen the new Benchmark Video, check it out here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGOIF_7vuLw

[rawker]

Interesting. WHM gets a stronger offensive spell. SCH getting another AoE heal... could it be their own Medica of some sort? PLDs get a combo off Riot Blade it seems and a oGCD that blocks the next incoming damage. And looks like SMN is getting another Enkindle.

[BlaiseArath]

Maybe its Quake :P

(Probably Stone 3 >_>)

[Malusion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEdg4glpCkg

Heh. Though I really am all for better single target options, our AoE really doesn't need work.

[Viviza]

More DPS options is good. Outside raid scenarios I'm using my attack spells a lot.

Very curious how a Stone III would fit in, since Stone II is already the spammy single target nuke. My guess would be that Stone III debuffs the target to earth damage.

I doubt it will be a debuff that's useful to the party. That seems more fitting for DPS jobs to apply. WHM offers plenty of support with healer-related tools.

[Ghishlain]

More DPS options is good. Outside raid scenarios I'm using my attack spells a lot.

Very curious how a Stone III would fit in, since Stone II is already the spammy single target nuke. My guess would be that Stone III debuffs the target to earth damage.

I doubt it will be a debuff that's useful to the party. That seems more fitting for DPS jobs to apply. WHM offers plenty of support with healer-related tools.

I could see it apply a debuff that increases damage taken (like, throwing a large enough rock to break the scales/armour off the target). Would have to be pretty small %, but something that does add up over time.

[Shikiseki]

I'm pretty sure Stonega is a CNJ spell and the real 2 spells the WHM will give through quests will be different (at least I hope so).

At the end of the MNK skill, it suspiciously looks like Aeroga... could be wrong

[LycorisSelunis]

I'm pretty sure Stonega is a CNJ spell and the real 2 spells the WHM will give through quests will be different (at least I hope so).

At the end of the MNK skill, it suspiciously looks like Aeroga... could be wrong

Have to dig up where I read this but, I recall them saying the new skills are all job skills, no new class skills.

[CycLee]

okok, i'm the bad guy.

since when does the single, uncomented scene from a benchmark count as a "confirmation"

isnt it still just a speculation?

well yes, it is not unlikly that you are right - but it's far from confirmed. i also wouldnt be too surprised if they packed some fancy effects in the benchmark, that we will never see in the final product.

[KisaiTenshi]

Have to dig up where I read this but, I recall them saying the new skills are all job skills, no new class skills.

Yes, but experience only applies to the base class, there is no "job" experience. In all the jobs you had to actually unlock the Job skills through a quest that couldn't be performed before the required level. So you could see semething like a stone III/Quake AOE which is given to the base class, while the actual WHM job doesn't get any further DPS skills since it already has Holy and doesn't need an additional AOE... and most people don't play the base class alone. Compare with Arcanist/SCH where all the healing spells are on the SCH job except for Psysick. Again, anything added to SCH job isn't going to be a DPS, it's going to be added to the base class. It just wouldn't make sense to otherwise.

Offhand, I don't see a point in there being additional DPS skills for healer classes unless there is upcoming content that would actually benefit from their use, in which case both healer roles needs something of equivilance. Hence the point about it's unlikely that any DPS skills are added to the healer jobs, and only to the base class. Stone-3/Quake would only make sense on the base CNJ class since that's where Stone I/StoneII is. I'm not even sure what SCH could get of equivalence since there already is an AOE DoT (Shadow Flare), but no actual AOE attack itself (and no Bane is not an AOE attack either.) Shadow Flare has more in common with the Archer Flaming Arrow than Holy.

I'd expect any additional DPS skills to have a DoT or debuff effect like the rest of the skills. Quake in other FF games is a ground based AOE that hits only enemies on the ground for massive damage.