Did squenix make a mistake by investing too much in graphics and not enough in

[Geesus]

The graphics are great, but what is the point if it's unplayable? Why should anyone have to go out and spend 1k on a PC to play a video game? The horrible graphics lag is what keeps me and a large majority of players from playing ffxiv. Every morning I wake up checking the tech support forums hoping for an update for the engine and every morning I am disappointed.

Did you know, since it's inception, the tech support part of the forums has never had a single GM reply? Why is that? People have asked over and over again for information on some kind of engine update so it's playable for them. But nothing is forthcoming by SE.

Ya know what I would like more than a great looking game? One that I didn't spend 140 dollars on (for two CEs) for my wife and I to enjoy together to just have it sit in the closet. If I could I would return it and get my money back.

Well I can't answer the question about why no GM has made an anouncement on the forums but, I can say this; if you had read ahead of time about the minimum and recommended system requirements for this game, you would have been able to either 1) save the money you "wasted" on a game you couldn't play or 2) upgraded your PC(s) in order TO Play the game.

I have a 1k machine but ONLY because I started out wanting to play this game on the best system possible so I could ENJOY all the gfx put into it. Well, I couldn't do all that. The specs for my rig are great sans the GPU 9600 GT. My GPU is the minimum needed to play the game and I don't have any of those issues EXCEPT when in Ul'Dah and even those are minimal. More or less just waiting for my GPU to render what I know is there.

I think it sucks the 2 of you can't play as you would have liked but sorry, this is the case for most newer games that are coming out. Doing your research ahead of time to look at your parts and to make sure they can at least handle the min. Reqs is always important. I can't tell you how many "Can't run game on brand new Win7 64 bit machine with 6 GBs of RAM /rage" comments I have answered. Come to find out the onboard GPU chip is shite! Just cause it can play youtube videos in HD doesn't equate to how it will play a game.

[Coldfire]

That's why I always recommend a highend entry model these days if someone asks for a card that can do games :P
The 100 bucks more is worth the lesser headaches

[Rydin]

The graphics are great, but what is the point if it's unplayable? Why should anyone have to go out and spend 1k on a PC to play a video game?

Off the top of my head I can list quite a few games that require very hefty systems to run adequately....

Metro 2033, Witcher 2, Crysis 2, Shogun 2... Metro 2033 is even worse than FFXIV... Running it on 2560x1600 with Max AA, tessellation, max textures, shadows... have fun with that.
Try needing multiple cards to run it max

[Ilean]

Off the top of my head I can list quite a few games that require very hefty systems to run adequately....

Metro 2033, Witcher 2, Crysis 2, Shogun 2... Metro 2033 is even worse than FFXIV... Running it on 2560x1600 with Max AA, tessellation, max textures, shadows... have fun with that.
Try needing multiple cards to run it max

They may require monster systems to be maxed out, but my PC that pumps witcher 2's beautiful environments at 45 fps on medium settings will choke on FFXIV if more than 3 people are on screen.

Also the idea that a MMO may not have action based gameplay is as stupid as saying that JRPGs may only have menu based combat. Technical or design limitations may have limited gameplay to slow, uninvolving gameplay in the genre's early years but there is no reason why it should stay that way forever.

[Coldfire]

I really wish they used a proper physic engine for metro and not a broken fps-burner :/

[Rydin]

They may require monster systems to be maxed out, but my PC that pumps witcher 2's beautiful environments at 45 fps on medium settings will choke on FFXIV if more than 3 people are on screen.

Yea... but there is a certain type of person that wants to run maxed settings with the min requirements....
and gets mad at the game when their card can't do 2560x1600 with 16xaa

Also the idea that a MMO may not have action based gameplay is as stupid as saying that JRPGs may only have menu based combat. Technical or design limitations may have limited gameplay to slow, uninvolving gameplay in the genre's early years but there is no reason why it should stay that way forever.

for the record, I don't have a problem with action based gameplay in an MMO... I'm guessing that part wasn't aimed at me.. but just sayin....

[Kiote]

We had action based Combat.. People whined it out..

Main Problem with non-turn based MMOs is its hard to type and fight and live all at once.

[Ilean]

We had action based Combat.. People whined it out..

Main Problem with non-turn based MMOs is its hard to type and fight and live all at once.

Nope, we had 111111111111111111111 based combat.

[AsterBarnivere]

Nope, we had 111111111111111111111 based combat.

I would've went with blade and soul's or even TERA's combat over this point and click malarkey...
But since a big amount of people whined about it, it makes me wonder if people should try to break the mold of mmos anymore these days if almost a large majority are still stuck on point and click, if that's "immersion and depth" in gameplay these days, then we're going to be looking at alot more point and clickery in the future..

[Ilean]

I would've went with blade and soul's or even TERA's combat over this point and click malarkey...
But since a big amount of people whined about it, it makes me wonder if people should try to break the mold of mmos anymore these days if almost a large majority are still stuck on point and click, if that's "immersion and depth" in gameplay these days, then we're going to be looking at alot more point and clickery in the future..

Can hardly call spamming 1 every 2 seconds action based gameplay. If we aren't attacking, blocking, evading, judging timings, etc., then it's not action based combat.