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    Question on trials and echos.

    Will they ever add echo to it, I only do PF and I join fail groups so much and it isn't enjoyable.
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    If pigs can really fly, I wouldn't care about anything else!!!

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    ........What?
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    Any HM class or higher trial has Echo on it dude. I even think Dorm Chimera and Hydra have it now. You have to survive for at least 5 minutes in the trial With Out Dieing before it'll activate though and will go to a maximum of a 20% boost to all stats.

    All levels of The Binding Coil have echo activated from the start. From the first turn of the first coil all the way to the final turn of the final coil, you get the 20% buff as soon as the raid starts. (You don't get it in any of the Crystal Tower raids btw)

    So what are you wiping so fast that you're never seeing echo? More Data needed man.
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    I think for trials, you get the echo if the party manages to stay alive 3 minutes after engaging the fight. 5 minutes seems to long in my experience.
    Each echo step is 10% for HM trials, Chimera and Hydra, 5% for EX trials. There is no echo for MSQ trials, nor for Hildibrand's quests trials.

    Regarding Coil, it's a flat 20% for the Binding Coil turns 1,2,4,5 (no echo in turn 3) and Second Coil turns 1,2,3,4. It's only a flat 10% in Final Coil turns 1,2,3,4. That being said, we can imagine that Final Coil echo may increase to 15% and then 20% in the future (it has been that way for BCoB and SCoB).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasminou View Post
    I think for trials, you get the echo if the party manages to stay alive 3 minutes after engaging the fight. 5 minutes seems to long in my experience.
    Each echo step is 10% for HM trials, Chimera and Hydra, 5% for EX trials. There is no echo for MSQ trials, nor for Hildibrand's quests trials.

    Regarding Coil, it's a flat 20% for the Binding Coil turns 1,2,4,5 (no echo in turn 3) and Second Coil turns 1,2,3,4. It's only a flat 10% in Final Coil turns 1,2,3,4. That being said, we can imagine that Final Coil echo may increase to 15% and then 20% in the future (it has been that way for BCoB and SCoB).
    Thank for elaborating on that. I wasn't sure of all the fine details.
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    Just to clarify when I said no echo in MSQ trials: I meant those which are not HM primals: hence Westwind Cape and the last two from patches 2.5 and 2.55
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    Cape Westwind doesn't need it and Odin and Steps of Faith? They might get it eventually but i don't think they need it either with the current gear levels.
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    Sorry wasn't clear, Urth's Fount is one that urks me so much.
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    Last edited by shanvhere; 04-26-2015 at 03:25 AM.
    If pigs can really fly, I wouldn't care about anything else!!!

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    Odin is a massive DPS check. Adding in Echo to that fight would defeat that purpose.
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    Hard to beat it when people in story have low gear to fight it.
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    If pigs can really fly, I wouldn't care about anything else!!!

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