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  1. #1
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    balanced123's Avatar
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    Lina Inverse
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    Did SE give up on making houses/plots re-sellable?

    Currently, the only way to get land is to buy it at full price from the server.
    People are changing server etc, and are unable to give old properties to their friends or sell for gil on new server.
    Could we please have the ability to transfer land ownership?
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    Etoile Kallera
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    The threat of losing a multi million gil investment can screw with housing's attractiveness.people want a house, but they don't want to be tied down in various ways or risk losing millions of gil
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    Ciel Valke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
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    How is the ability to resell your house a threat, though? :P It's the opposite, actually. Right now, the only way to resell your house is to lose a large fragment of the gil invested by asking for a relinquish price, which people must then add the house's full price to. I would call -that- being tied down.

    Then again, whether you were arguing or agreeing isn't really clear, so disregard my post if it's the latter. ^^
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    I think she's trying to make the point that only reason there are still some houses left is because it's a permanent investment.. If SE allowed people to get their money out by selling it, people would be more willing to buy the houses.

    I don't agree with the idea, I think opening up the housing market for trade will inflate the prices and have it readily exchanged between people.. But at least it will be available, if the price is right.
    Perhaps some people can even make some money by selling fully furnished houses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenJoe View Post
    I don't agree with the idea, I think opening up the housing market for trade will inflate the prices and have it readily exchanged between people.. But at least it will be available, if the price is right.
    Perhaps some people can even make some money by selling fully furnished houses.
    It could be alright if the prices could only set in the range at which you can buy the plot (so the price rigth after the plot becomes buyable as highest price and the price after 3 months as lowest price)
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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    In my perfect world SE would allow the purchasing/selling/trading of housing ownership..

    ..and at the same time remove subdivisions/wards access

    No more of this 1st ward, 2nd ward, 12th ward, choose your ward destination, choose your subdivision teleport, etc nonsense.

    If you don't have a private or fc home in a ward/subdvision, you can't access that area, tough bananas.

    With this double-punch addition and limitation people will start trading their plots so they can move their private and FC homes into the same wards/subdivisions/whatever. Friends and FC mates will naturally congregate into the same ward

    How many wards/subdivisions are there now? SE keeps talking about server limitations for new plots.. the irony is I don't need or want access to every player's personal house or FC home. Let's be honest, the only housing we care about is our own personal and FC homes, and maybe a couple of our closest friends.

    SE doesn't want instanced zones, but this seems to me a happy medium

    edit: to the current topic, I don't see why SE should regulate the pricing after the initial purchase. Once someone owns a plot, they should be able to do as they want with it, even if it is trading it to someone for 1 gil.

    maybe allow a maximum of 1 personal home per subscription?
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    Last edited by Xenosan; 04-07-2015 at 04:08 AM.

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    Daleria Duskweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenosan View Post

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    .... the only housing we care about is our own personal and FC, and maybe our closest friends.

    .... Once someone owns a plot, they should be able to do as they want with it....

    ...maximum of 1 personal home per subscription?
    Actually, while I am not fond of the current system I do appreciate the benefits - to wit - it eliminates gold sellers and speculators from the fray. 1 home per subscription is lame when you have characters on multiple servers.

    If SE opened it up to resale we would have the problems of BOTH gold sellers and speculators. Regardless of restrictions, if there is resale, both will find a way. Imagine a house on a highly populated server having an RMT price tag of $500USD and a new (but viable) FC unable to get a house because of speculators and you get my drift. It WOULD happen. It's human "internet" nature....

    And as far as socializing is concerned. I've made a ton of new friends around local MB!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tam_Hawkins View Post
    It could be alright if the prices could only set in the range at which you can buy the plot (so the price rigth after the plot becomes buyable as highest price and the price after 3 months as lowest price)
    I meant that I don't agree with Kallera's idea that demand will increase as a result of the houses being "refundable" by sale. Because at this point, if somebody wants a house, and there's a plot, they've got it or they're saving up for it. The rest of the people simply don't care to have a house at market price and having houses become tradable won't draw them in to buy a house. So that won't change the demand of housing by significant margin.

    I'm all for having houses be tradable and us as players set the price on them. Of course, whoever got the empty plots will end up making money on it as they resale, and as time goes on, prices will inflate even more and housing prices will also follow that trend. Just like real life appreciation, but much faster
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    reselling is terrible and shouldn't be implemented.

    what they should do is give players housing credit. if you relinquish your land you get X amount of credits back which can only be used to buy housing related items from NPCs (plot, permit, gardens and stables).

    so if you server change you can spend those credits on your new server.
    if you have a small/medium plot you can put those credits to upgrade to a bigger plot.
    if they implement Ishgard housing you can sell your plot and put those credits to move.

    if your friend wants your vacated plot they have to buy it from the system with gil.
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    V'aleera Lhuil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenosan View Post
    No more of this 1st ward, 2nd ward, 12th ward, choose your ward destination, choose your subdivision teleport, etc nonsense.

    If you don't have a private or fc home in a ward/subdvision, you can't access that area, tough bananas.
    Congratulations! You've been nominated for the Dumbest Idea of the Day Award! Pending a favorable vote by our judges, you can expect to see your award in the mail in 3-5 business days!
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