Newbie Rant - Summoner Pets

[Hiruke]

Complaining about the APPEARANCE of SMN pets is a complete waste of time. I don't know why the topic gets revived randomly every couple days. It's never going to change, so.

[AreeyaJaidee]

Complaining about the APPEARANCE of SMN pets is a complete waste of time. I don't know why the topic gets revived randomly every couple days. It's never going to change, so.

By that logic, this comment ^ up here is a waste of time. Looks like you're in agreement of wasting time, that's step one.

[Darkstride]

By that logic, this comment ^ up here is a waste of time. Looks like you're in agreement of wasting time, that's step one.

I think what they meant by "waste of time" is that devs have already stated that they have no plans to do anything to change about the appearance of Egis, so arguing about it won't get anyone anywhere.

[AreeyaJaidee]

I think what they meant by "waste of time" is that devs have already stated that they have no plans to do anything to change about the appearance of Egis, so arguing about it won't get anyone anywhere.

Doesn't mean ppl can't keep hoping... The devs are not infallible. If ppl don't like something then they will say so, if others don't agree then they can go read another thread, simple.

Ppl replying to "give up its a waste of time" isn't going to stop some of us from hoping for change and asking for change. Its our game too, and this request has been brought up repeatedly from newer and veteran players alike since SMN addition to the game... So its obvious not everyone is a fan of their design choice

[Kaisha]

They're small to help with visibility concerns. You don't need player-sized pets (or larger) blocking the view in an MMO that's heavy on dodging AoEs and dealing with mechanics markers over player's heads.

[Lyrinn]

They're small to help with visibility concerns. You don't need player-sized pets (or larger) blocking the view in an MMO that's heavy on dodging AoEs and dealing with mechanics markers over player's heads.

Exactly this. Giant summons are fine in single player games. They're not fine in MMOs where you have to watch for small markers over your heads or on the ground. I wouldn't mind a compromise like upscaling summons outside of dungeons/raids since we already have goobues and fat chocobos running around but absolutely not for duties.

[HakuroDK]

I happen to know from previous interviews that some of the current egis will be altered gameplay-wise so each egi can adapt to varying situations, so Ifrit will become more than JUST a melee DPS and Garuda will become more than JUST a ranged DPS, then Ramuh and Leviathan egis will fit in there somewhere.

As for appearances... what kind of appearances are you suggesting? I mean, what won't happen is individual summoners getting full-sized summonable versions of the primals. Whether or not the devs are still going to let FCs summon Primals is up in the air, but no individual summoner will get that power.

[DragonFlyy]

Personally I don't mind the egi's size. What I do wish is they shared the models of the primals (just smaller).

[Gilraen]

The thing is that smaller primals don't make much sense considering how Summoners are getting their egis, lore-wise. Summoners, like in XI, get their egis from the primals as a form of power-sharing. The differences is that in XI the avatars respected Summoners after proving themselves worthy. In XIV you're not so much proving you're worthy in as much proving you're able. But the BIG difference is primals, unlike XI's avatars, are so full of themselves that the stick up their arses have sprouted roots. The egis aren't so much a primal's will given form in an aetheric construct the Summoner can handle as it is a pity pittance, a fragment of a primal that couldn't be arsed to give a rat's arse over. They are not our friends, and a Summoner isn't much higher on the 'friendship' scale.

[Exodus-E]

The thing is that smaller primals don't make much sense considering how Summoners are getting their egis, lore-wise. Summoners, like in XI, get their egis from the primals as a form of power-sharing.
The differences is that in XI the avatars respected Summoners after proving themselves worthy.
In XIV you're not so much proving you're worthy in as much proving you're able.
But the BIG difference is primals, unlike XI's avatars, are so full of themselves that the stick up their arses have sprouted roots.
The egis aren't so much a primal's will given form in an aetheric construct the Summoner can handle as it is a pity pittance, a fragment of a primal that couldn't be arsed to give a rat's arse over.
They are not our friends, and a Summoner isn't much higher on the 'friendship' scale.

You see, here's the thing: unlike FFXI, we're not forming some sort of "pact" with a given summon/avatar.
Instead, we're basically "stealing" a fragment of their essence and manifesting it as an aetheric construct, just as you said.
That's exactly how the Allagans developed the "Summoner" job to begin with (as a way to counter them, by fighting "fire with fire" so to speak).

And you're right: these manifestations are not our "friends" (and neither are the Primals from that matter).
Hells, I don't think the Egis themselves are even sentient beyond what their Summoner commands them to do
(in fact, and IMO, on a scale of sentience between pets would be something like: Fairies > Carbuncles >>>>> Egis).