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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izsha View Post
    Guys, any lag time between the cast bar for ANY ability and the telegraphed graphic on the ground being out of synch is a HARDWARE PROBLEM. That's not lag. That is your machine is not rendering the graphical effect because it has weak video processing. PS3s. Antique pcs. Laptops not designed for gaming. Etc.

    Cast bar and telegraph desynchs are a client issue. Stop calling it lag. It's more prominent with abilities that have unique indicators instead of the simple red circles used by trash mobs.

    Turn down effects or upgrade your machine. The end. It's not the Internet or SE's servers. They designed an effect that your machine struggles to render. That's it.

    Lag is a whole different issue.
    Perhaps you could back your statement up by providing the link to a video where a system you considerate adequate for the challenge isn't sporting this issue? That would be more helpful than simply claiming it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    What would help is if Weights had some normal goddamn AoE indicators, rather than fancy graphical effects that take time and processing power to render. Even if it's in the realm of a couple tenths of a second, the attack is unforgiving enough to react to that those tenths of a second really matter.

    Turn down effects or upgrade your machine. The end. It's not the Internet or SE's servers. They designed an effect that your machine struggles to render. That's it.
    Yeah, a totally unnecessary effect. Which, by the way, I'm not aware of any means to "turn down".
    I don't know, at 53 FPS the problem seems to still exist, so I'm not sure if I buy into this theory.




    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter View Post
    Lol. Just laughing at the people who obviously didn't bother reading the OP or just looked at the pictures and just posted the usual titan responses. All the OP is asking for is for the animations to match the cast bar(which would be a good thing for every fight in this game). No where was lag mentioned or their inability to clear the fight. But we all know this will be 20 pages of people not reading the OP and just posting about how easy it is to dodge and anyone else just needs to git gud.
    No, he's complaining that it's broken when this is clearly what square intended. He just wants something different and his argument doesn't frame it that way very well at all. He comes across as whiny since he doesn't even seem to get that it isn't "broken" just because he doesn't like it. Everyone knows how the cast bars and attacks work in this game. If he doesn't like that then frame the argument around that simple concept. Not specifically around Titan Weights. It's like he's setting up a straw man to distract from his own point.
    Tiggy, what is your problem precisely? You came into this thread making multiple complaint posts, including how (in your confused mind) I failed to provide screenshots with Titan as the target and omitted the cast bar, when in reality Titan was targeted the entire time. At no point did you apologize for your error after someone pointed it out to you, but instead are now resorting to labeling the original post as "whiny".

    In this case, Ulathskullsplitter has the right of it. It's clear to me that he actually bothered to read the original post before jumping in to respond, where as either you didn't, or you're still struggling with comprehending the written world (even though pictures were included to make things simpler).

    If this were Titan: Forum Edition you would have wiped us a half dozen times over. You have failed this thread. :P
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    Last edited by Gyson; 04-24-2015 at 07:35 AM.

  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    What would help is if Weights had some normal goddamn AoE indicators, rather than fancy graphical effects that take time and processing power to render. Even if it's in the realm of a couple tenths of a second, the attack is unforgiving enough to react to that those tenths of a second really matter.



    Yeah, a totally unnecessary effect. Which, by the way, I'm not aware of any means to "turn down".
    A wider range of graphics options would be nice for the game. At lowest settings plumes etc should just be standard red circles, but leave the option for higher end rigs to keep the atmospheric current design. We are fighting elemental gods after all. I like seeing molten lava when I fight ifrit or icy death vs shiva. But if your machine can't hack it turn it off.

    They should take a note from blizzard. Their games have a HUGE range when it comes to graphic settings to allow any dumpy thing to play their games. They have really been a great model for making games for all machines because their graphic options really let you drill down to turn off or reduce anything. The game is almost unrecognizable but it works.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    If this were Titan: Forum Edition you would have wiped us a half dozen times over. You have failed this thread. :P
    Yet, I don't actually wipe on Titan despite all these complaints. Dislike my opinion? *cry cry*
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Yet, I don't actually wipe on Titan. Dislike my opinion? *cry cry*
    Once again you misunderstand. I don't have a problem with opinions. I do have a problem that you expect others to read the nonsense you're posting when it's clear you didn't bother to do any reading before diving in.

    In short, why are you trolling?
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    I understand but this is I think partly a player created misinterpretation of how skills work in FFXIV - animations have never been a "match" to the cast bar.

    I think now after playing for a good stretch of time that the cast bars are meant as a telegraph -> "This is going to happen when this runs out!" and the AoE markers are "This is where this is going to happen! Boom!" once you reconcile that in your head it's simply an issue of being comfortable with the level of latency you're dealing with (because SE can't make the whole interweb faster) and checking your system settings to see how well your machine is running the game - PS3 users may have some animation/processing lag because... well it's old hardware.

    I get that coming from offline games, or other MMOs that are designed a bit differently having the cast bar and the animation doing separate functions may be entirely counter-intuitive but it's just how they built it.

    Flatten as an example - the cast bar lets your tank know it's coming, they need to get their ability off before the bar disappears - then the animation and subsequent damage are applied; but not the instant the bar disappears.


    They basically built in a cushion for latency...
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    I did read your post. I just think it's a giant waste of time and I think you're flat out wrong that it's "broken". People don't have to completely agree with you. This thread is not an echo chamber for only posts that agree with your point of view. You don't like it? Ignore my posts and move on. Simple as that.
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    I agree with OP. Not only does this need to be fixed for titan, but every fight that this happens in in the game.
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    I guess I've been playing too long but since you know the "delay" is there you can also take advantage of it. For example, the AOE markers the enemies throw out. You just have to be out of it when the marker disappears. Same thing with the titan puddles. You can then run in it while the enemy is doing the animation. Great for melee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    I did read your post. I just think it's a giant waste of time and I think you're flat out wrong that it's "broken". People don't have to completely agree with you. This thread is not an echo chamber for only posts that agree with your point of view. You don't like it? Ignore my posts and move on. Simple as that.
    Two things:

    1) You keep placing the word "broken" in quotes even though I never actually used it in the original post. That you're still using it several posts later makes it crystal clear that you're still struggling to comprehend the simple points being presented in the original post. Unfortunately, there's not much I can do about the failure on your end.

    2) If you think my post is a "giant waste of time", I suggest you take your "don't like it?" advice and "ignore" it and "move on". As you say, it's as "simple as that".
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    Move on bro. If it's such a big deal then I'm inconsequential as are my opinions. But yadda yadda last words or something like that right? Lol.
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    Last edited by Tiggy; 04-24-2015 at 09:00 AM.

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