Titan issues that need addressing.

[DoctorPepper]

Always a bunch of whining on these forums.

Always a bunch of whining about whining on these forums.

Edit - Always a bunch of whining about whining about whining on these forums.

[siverstorm]

Ahhh yes. Because asking a company to fix something that is obviously broken is whining.

It's by no means a perfect implementation, but "obviously broken" implies it doesn't work.....meaning we'd all probably still be stuck on chimera or some earlier fight to this day. It doesn't make sense to me when people complain about core details of the combat system in this game but still choose to play it (since we're explicitly talking about titan here and the mechanic in question appears in the main scenario).

But please, continue to call out everyone else on their "blind faith" you "silly heretic" lmao.

[Tiggy]

Those images prove nothing. They don't tell us about your network situation at all. They don't tell us if you actually got out slightly too late and therefore got hit anyway. You have to be out of the area BEFORE the cast is finished. If the cast finishes, then you get out, then the animation goes off, you still get hit. Those images would have been more useful coupled with latency data and at least having Titan targeted so we can see the state of his cast bar throughout the images.

Sorry, but this is a poorly made case with too little info to justify your conclusion. More data required.

Last night I was in a titan farm group for a few hours. I never died a single time and I don't even have the pattern memorized. I just react as I see the attack under my feet. As far as I'm concerned you need to learn to do the fight better. No need to go around blaming the game when people all over the place are doing the fight properly with no issues. If it was broken we'd all struggle. Every single one of us. The fact is we don't all struggle. Look inward for solutions.

That is literally just people learning to work around the problem not a fix for the problem.

No, it's literally people playing the game as designed and literally you making excuses for your failures where others succeed.

Ahhh yes. Because asking a company to fix something that is obviously broken is whining.

It's not OBVIOUSLY broken when thousands upon thousands of people have no problems with it at all. If they can do it so can you. Your whining because you'd rather come here to complain than get on the same level as everyone else who completes it daily.

[Songi]

"I was out of it!!!" - This one never gets old.

[Firepower]

I just did "The Insatiable" Achievement over the last few days and did 5 relics, I did Titan (Hard) as WHM, SCH, SMN, BLM, BRD. Obviously I have already done it ages ago as the previous melee/tank jobs. Out of those 5 jobs I think I died to that attack maybe once, on WHM, by reacting slowly. The only times I got hit by that attack was when I was trying to finish a cast instead of dodging. I rarely if ever look at the cast bar and move when the AOE pops up. I don't see any issue with that attack at all other than if you have a bad connection or are just slow at dodging.

[Whiston]

They don\\'t tell us if you actually got out slightly too light and therefore got hit anyway. You have to be out of the area BEFORE the cast is finished.

Actually, I believe the images show exactly what you are describing.
I felt the post was actually quite informative for those people who truly believe they were "out of that" when in fact, these images detail exactly why you weren\\'t out of that.

I do however disagree that this is a broken system. Correcting these issues would either make the game rely too heavily client side (without server side checks, the client is quite susceptible to cheating also), or it would make the fight more trivially easy than it already is.

I don\\'t see an issue at all, but I applaud the research the OP produced, and maybe it will help some people still having problems.

[Tiggy]

Actually, I believe the images show exactly what you are describing.

By all means point out Titans cast bar in any image after the first one. Cause I don't see it at all. He doesn't even have Titan targeted. The info I specifically request is not provided at all. Especially in regards to the connection data. All he has is some images that don't show all the relevant data and some "he said she said" type paragraphs explaining to us what a happened. A video, with Titan focus targeted the entire time, would have been considerably more effective.

Also a few screenshots does not count as "research." Just saying.

This is just an overly complicated way of saying "I was out of it!" and it fails to even do that well.

[DoctorPepper]

I pretty much agree with Tiggy as far as Titan is concerned, all it takes is practice in order to anticipate what to expect.

If anything, latency is the biggest issue with Titan for some people, but even if you have latency issues you can easily dodge the mechanics if you know when they're coming. It just takes time to learn the patterns and be able to react accordingly.

[Whiston]

By all means point out Titans cast bar in any image after the first one. Cause I don\\'t see it at all. He doesn\\'t even have Titan targeted. The info I specifically request is not provided at all. Especially in regards to the connection data. All he has is some images that don\\'t show all the relevant data and some "he said she said" type paragraphs explaining to us what a happened. A video, with Titan focus targeted the entire time, would have been considerably more effective.

Titan is targeted at the top of the screen. The whole point is that you don\\'t see a cast bar because the cast has finished after the first image. The description even states as such. The player in these images is getting hit because he was still in the area of effect after the cast bar has ended. It does a good job of detailing how to correctly Dodge these aoe casts, or more specifically, exactly where he went wrong.

[Reivur]

I used to have the problems OP is describing... At launch. I lived in New York and they persisted up until I would say the time Haukke Manor HM came out, unless I played past Midnight EST then there would be no problems. It was clearly the route and as a result I had to either memorize the pattern and kind of linger around by myself, or use pingzapper. Pingzapper made it obvious it was the route. Then a month or so into the Haukke Manor patch everything cleared up pretty well, either due to my isp, SE, or the route itself improving on SE's behalf (of which they said they working on) for some time. Haven't been using Pingzapper at all since.

And I simply do not have the problems OP has for over a year now. I don't use cast bars as reaction. I don't use memorization-- I see the effect under my feet, and move. I can sometimes even be a pixel off at the very last moment and still not get hit, so I can't agree at all that it has anything to do with telegraphing the attack.