Game of thrones ish ending *Spoilers*

[Neo_bahamut]

Ok so am I the only one that dislike the final fantasy of thrones ending where they kill off just about everyone except of course the boring one who lord beholds is a bad guy... I love the GOT books for jerk twist but kinda not what I have come to expect from the Final fantasy series :/ granted its not the first time they killed off a beloved main character but red wedding style was a bit much for me specially since it stalled there till the expansion come out so now I am left feeling shitty and in a wtf mood loss the light blessing and slaughtered the scion also did that **** at the adventure guild backstab us by telling us to keep the vial on us!?? basically everything we built and bonded with is dead and gone come new expansion? not the best way to leave it for 2 months kinda disappointed

[Belhi]

I don't think the Adventurer's Guild purposely set us up. After all they weren't the ones to give us the vial.

However I think its worth pointing out that while this was clearly a major blow to our characters, its probably not as devastating as everything we have fought for being torn down. We don't know if all or any of the Scions are actually dead. Nanamo is the only one we can be certain of. Even then traveling around the world and talking to NPCs it shows your cred with the populous still carries weight. While you are a fugitive you have allies who will help you even if they cant do it openly without risking war.

The other point about the light's blessing being striped, I think its a core part of these events. Midgarsormr is testing us. We are getting protected by a weakening goddess at great cost to her. He is testing us to see if we are really worth that. He wants us to prove we can still overcome while relying on our own strength.

As for the two month thing, that's more because unfortunately the expac was delayed a month which drags it all out.

[Enkidoh]

Actually, a better analogy for the 2.55 ending is Star Wars Episode 5 ~ The Empire Strikes Back where as the ending for 2.0 is Episode 4 ~ A New Hope, as the former also ends on cliffhanger with the protagonists seemingly defeated and scattered and demoralized, left with few allies as well while the later the antagonists are defeated and the heroes celebrate.

Also it's not the first time a FF story takes a dark twist - clearly you've never played FFVI.

[Tsuchi]

Hiya, I don't post often here but I'd just like to add my two cents.

The number of characters who were shown dead on-screen during the finale of 2.55 is exactly one.

You're not reading into it properly, I highly doubt they're all dead.

As a bit of a side note, the same goes for Moenbryda. I don't think they would introduce a character in 2.4 only to have her "perish" one major patch later without any evidence that she was in-fact dead and gone, only to make a big deal of it if she wasn't going to return.

All in all, I'm not convinced until I see a physical corpse. :b

Expect a decent amount of time to lapse before we come across our heroes again with newfound skills and tools, it may take a bit seeing as they gave us a new ally at the very end to tide us over.

[KaijinRhada]

did that **** at the adventure guild backstab us by telling us to keep the vial on us!??

I don't think Momodi is in cahoots with the others, only using what made sense, which is keeping it in case something does happen regarding the phial; it just wasn't what she would have expected. The most sensible thing though would have been to send it straight off to the alchemist's guild.

[Cilia]

I don't know anything about Game of Thrones, and generally avoid comparing one story to another.

To give my two cents and explain a bit... the PC wasn't betrayed by the Adventurer's Guild. Talking to any major city's innkeeper and Slafborn in Mor Dhona shows they're still on our side. We were framed by the Monetarists using Crystal Braves as puppets; specifically Laurentius, who we really should not have trusted with that whole vial business (he was selling Wood Wailer patrol information to the Garleans way back when).

Everything we've done isn't for nothing, though; most NPCs we can talk to express their belief in our innocence, and though Gridania and Limsa can't help us because doing so would both tell the Ul'dahn authorities where we are and get said authorities mad at them, they're still not going to haul us in. Ul'dah is similarly safe because there's been no official statement on what happened at the royal banquet.

All in all I felt like it was a good and shocking ending, much better than WoW's standard expansion lead-in, and am very much looking forward to Heavensward (even if I'm gonna redo all the 2.x content as an Au Ra before I get to the new story).

As for the two month thing, that's more because unfortunately the expac was delayed a month which drags it all out.

Really has it? I looked everywhere but I've not found anything saying that... much sadness if so. Understand, but still sad.

[Belhi]

I don't know anything about Game of Thrones, and generally avoid comparing one story to another.

To give my two cents and explain a bit... the PC wasn't betrayed by the Adventurer's Guild. Talking to any major city's innkeeper and Slafborn in Mor Dhona shows they're still on our side. We were framed by the Monetarists using Crystal Braves as puppets; specifically Laurentius, who we really should not have trusted with that whole vial business (he was selling Wood Wailer patrol information to the Garleans way back when).

Everything we've done isn't for nothing, though; most NPCs we can talk to express their belief in our innocence, and though Gridania and Limsa can't help us because doing so would both tell the Ul'dahn authorities where we are and get said authorities mad at them, they're still not going to haul us in. Ul'dah is similarly safe because there's been no official statement on what happened at the royal banquet.

All in all I felt like it was a good and shocking ending, much better than WoW's standard expansion lead-in, and am very much looking forward to Heavensward (even if I'm gonna redo all the 2.x content as an Au Ra before I get to the new story).

To be fair with Laurentius, we were trusting Buscarron's opinion of Laurentius's character and giving him another chance. Bad call on Buscarron's part. Laurentius might have once been an idealistic and good willed young man but no longer. That's the thing with giving second chances. Sometimes they pay off (Wilard) and sometimes they don't.

Really has it? I looked everywhere but I've not found anything saying that... much sadness if so. Understand, but still sad.

When they released the release date at PAX east, Yoshi-P apologised to the crowd that the release date wasn't in spring. He said they had tried really hard to hit a May release date but really wanted to make sure it was fully polished and so pushed back the date a month.

That's why we have a June release date rather than one in spring.

[Cilia]

To be fair with Laurentius, we were trusting Buscarron's opinion of Laurentius's character and giving him another chance. Bad call on Buscarron's part. Laurentius might have once been an idealistic and good willed young man but no longer. That's the thing with giving second chances. Sometimes they pay off (Wilard) and sometimes they don't.

True, true. Still, I can't help but feel just a little responsible, given we personally recruited all the named Braves (except Ilberd).

When they released the release date at PAX east, Yoshi-P apologised to the crowd that the release date wasn't in spring. He said they had tried really hard to hit a May release date but really wanted to make sure it was fully polished and so pushed back the date a month.

That's why we have a June release date rather than one in spring.

Ah, just a little miscommunication then.

Still, June is only 2 months away from now, and if you preorder and get early access you'll (or rather, you should be) playing it in just under that time frame.

[lilirulu]

snippity do-da snippty dae. This post limit is such a shame.

We saw two characters die, Teledji and Nanamo, in 2.55.

And Moenbryda is dead. She evaporated into aether there was nothing left of her body or even clothing after 2.5. Only way you could consider her "alive" is if you consider all the children born after her death to be her.

You can't see a corpse of a person who's body disintegrated.

I don't know the death in 2.5 isn't that shocking when people dropped like flies all through 2.0.

Tam-tara - Avere died.
Copperbell - The Roe, Miqo, and Lala adventurers we met in the Lominsan Adventurer's Guild died to Gigas.
Ifrit/Camp Drybone - All the Immortal Flames (iirc?) had to be killed after being tempered. This, also, includes Ungust. This one is really important because it's one of the major causes for Thancred getting possessed. The whole arc talks about death a lot too. You even have to bury a corpse at one point.
Little Ala Mhigo - Quite a few of Wilred's fellow youths were killed by Amal'jaa
Haukke Manor - Amandine died got possessed by a succubus then proceeded to murder her handmaiden's by cutting off their faces.
Little Solace - Several Slyph are killed by Garleans (happens in a echo).
Waking Sands - Everyone but the Scions and Tataru (for some reason) is killed during the raid. Also, one garlean soldier. RIP Mr. Stabby McStabber.
Coerthaes - Francel is almost killed, and the Fake Inquisitor was having people (including Francel) killed.
Westwind/Castrum Meridium/Preatorium - We kill all the Garlean Generals (sans Nero, and possibly Livia) as well as Gaius.

Obviously, 2.5 isn't exactly the same as all these cases (it features the (possible) deaths of major NPCs for instance) all these but they do show that SE isn't afraid to use death within the story. And I'm pretty sure I forgot some examples throughout the story too.

[Yukiba]

I forget his name but I liked him very much, the highlander ala mhigan who was young with a ton of energy who just joined the crystal braves. He was killed as well which sucked imo because I really liked him for his character progression from 2.0 story to his righteous zeal of wanting to do what is right and help out as a new crystal brave. Anywho, I loved the game of thrones-esque ending. I was VERY surprised at what happened. I kinda figured nanamo would die but all the other events were WOW. Mouth dropped several times. Also the graphics and lighting were very well done and I hope they stay on this track with every cutscene and not just major ones. I thoroughly enjoyed the ending and applaud SE and dev team/staff on an ending well done.

Though some players wouldnt have liked it, I wish we were exiled from Ul'dah untill things were made right. Would have had more impact to me like the shutting down of the servers at the end of 1.0. Of course, let players know ahead of time before they complete the cutscenes that they wouldnt have access anymore. But I understand why they wouldnt do such a thing with people still needing/wanting access to Ul'dah for quests/stores GC etc... But.. You know.. That's kinda the negative of being accused of killing the sultana lol. It's very inconvenient! haha