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    Aryalandi's Avatar
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    Warrior of Light Primal Plot Twist (spoilers)

    So this will most likely not happen, but what if our overachiever Warrior of Light character was a primal the whole time? (Dun dun DUUUUN) I mean there are certainly enough people around in the beginning of ARR crying out that they want the forgotten warriors of light back. We collect crystals to become more powerful, we gain fallowers via our deeds. (quest exp happens because you do things for people, exp = worship points making us more powerful)

    Over the storyline it is questioned many many times how we can be /that/ powerful. /that/ determined, /that/ successful. What if somewhere along the way or even just from the very start WoL has been a primal of the original warriors of light~ and the coming warrior of darkness is the real "us" coming back to fix things?

    Random plot twist theory... lol that is all.
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    We're not Primals. We may use crystals for power (also remember, crystals are used in a lot of things in Eorzea, so just using crystals for power doesn't mean as much as it seems) but we do not consume them, nor do we consume ambient aether like Primals do. We'd also be really bad at tempering if we were (I mean, the whole betrayal from the Crystal Braves and Lolorito...).

    Remember the first time you met one of the Scions? Would they have really let you be if you were an aether-draining Primal? This was before you had any Crystals of Light too...
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    Zohar Lahar
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    Aside from the Blessing of Light and tradecraft classes, we don't use much in the way of crystals to power up. Instead we put on better gear and accrue a mystical essence called EXP.
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Not that we were one the whole time, but rather a "he who fights monsters" sort of deal. By slaying primals on a regular basis and absorbing the aether, we either get closer to become one, or to have our abilities run amok, making us(or others) wonder if we are in control.

    Another twist could be to have our feats start to inspire fear in the populace, instead of awe, the ending did start to pose the question of what we are. What if that question starts getting noticed, but going unanswered more and more?

    What happens when people want to be saved from the savior?
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    -half asleep while posting- i like random theories though, it is just a bit of fun, and more of a what if. I mostly just wonder where the story will go next with how everyone (including allies) wondering how we have gotten so far beyond what should be possible
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    I do not think we are a primal or have to worry about becoming one. However, I do wonder what will happen if we were to meet an untimely demise? Would the populace of Eorzea try to recreate us into a primal?

    As for the Warriors of Darkness, I'm pretty convinced they are not going to be inherently "evil." Early Final Fantasy games, FF3 to be exact, stated that light isn't always good, darkness isn't always bad and that there should always be a balance between the two to keep the world stable. I think that's why the Warriors of Darkness are being sent out now. We are throwing the equilibrium out of whack and it has to be restored before something cataclysmic happens. Whether or not it'll be the same case here remains to be seen. But I look forward to when we actually encounter the Warriors of Darkness.
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    Well I think it may be possible that we're changing into SOMETHING. I know the Echo prevents us from getting tempered by primals, but what about all that aether we're always around? Didn't Captain Madison imply he and his pirate company were changed by Leviathan for failing him so many times? I think it was by a blast of aether. Can't remember.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    Well I think it may be possible that we're changing into SOMETHING. I know the Echo prevents us from getting tempered by primals, but what about all that aether we're always around? Didn't Captain Madison imply he and his pirate company were changed by Leviathan for failing him so many times? I think it was by a blast of aether. Can't remember.
    I think it was repetitive tempering, so large blasts of Leviathan's brand of water-aspected aether. So much so, we're told it'd take lethal amounts to change someone like that.

    The exception there was the Mermaids (they looked like Lamia, but had a fin on the end of their tails). We're told they're "Drowned Wenches," but it was suggested in an interview that they may originally have been Lamia, but went through the morphing process.
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    I think it is more likely that we're Tempered. Tempered individuals, given time, do seem to exceed their mortal limits to the point where we have to deal with them rather than them just still being random pathetic people. This is particularly noticeable with Ifrit, when we get to see him Temper some people, who then meekly walk off to their deaths, yet all the other Tempered individuals for Ifrit (presumably coming from similar walks of life) are fairly strong (or were, at Lv50). How'd they get that strong? Simple, being Tempered makes you stronger.

    Who are we Tempered by? Hydaelyn, of course. Both the planet and the Mother Crystal. The Mother Crystal is actually in the center of the planet, looks awfully similar to Bahamuts crystal heart, doesn't it? But Primals sap the world of aether to sustain themselves? Well, Hydaelyn is a planet size Primal, does space look particularly rich in aether? The Lifestream? Well, would a large enough Primal have a vascular system? I'd think so...

    Another interesting tidbit from the Alexander plot line, the Illuminati seem to think that, once Alexander is fully operational and consuming all the aether on the planet, they'll be safe inside, surviving off his aether. So, unless they're wrong, large enough Primals can sustain life inside/on them. Wonder what would happen if you summoned a Primal inside Alexander... Would it feed of the planets aether, or would it feed off Alexanders? Then there is the whole Ascian thing. Most recently they've claimed we mindlessly seek out Primals to kill, and in the past Elidibus mentioned how we'd join them if we knew the truth... From their perspective, we live to kill Primals, but we're unaware Hydaelyn is a Primal. If we knew Hydaelyn was a Primal, surely we'd join them to kill yet another Primal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    Most recently they've claimed we mindlessly seek out Primals to kill, and in the past Elidibus mentioned how we'd join them if we knew the truth... From their perspective, we live to kill Primals, but we're unaware Hydaelyn is a Primal. If we knew Hydaelyn was a Primal, surely we'd join them to kill yet another Primal?
    i don't think that would be the same case... as if we killed hydaelyn we would be killing everything that lived on the planet if your theory is true...at which point i highly doubt even the most fanatic primal slayer would go THAT far...
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