Disciples of Arts :: role-playing subclasses

[MidniteMixxy]

I remember seeing people asking about "missing vampires in Eorzea", and plenty of "bring over the FF11 classes" or "more special emotes" posts, so I thought of something: Disciples of Arts (role-playing subclasses).
Brainstorming...

Bravely Default characters © Silicon Studio + Square Enix

Basically... (tl;dr):
Adventurers would complete special quests from NPCs to earn emotes, unique glamour/gear, visual modifications (i.e. sharp Fangs), and possibly small stat benefits to their character.

The rewards will allow adventurers to "become" Dancers, Thiefs, or even Vampires as role-playing sub-classes after they collect the provided sets.

[MidniteMixxy]

Disciple of Arts Specifics:
After meeting certain requirements, the Adventurer will be able to start a quest-chain from a certain NPC which will have the player learn more about the lore to certain Arts (role-playing professions) or complete a set of tasks.

Disciple of Arts Quest Icon (mockup)

The quests will award the player with a set of role-playing gifts upon completing them.
For example, completing a DoA quests about Dancers, will reward the adventure with the Final Fantasy 11 Dancer's Outfit items (head/hat, body, hands, legs, feet), a new dance emote, and a title "Dancer". That way, if the class doesn't get to appear in FF14, players can still enjoy the gear and lore.

Dancer from Final Fantasy 11

[MidniteMixxy]

Possible Arts and restrictions:
The DoAs can be from a range of anything that suggests role-playing, without needing to break the game balance.

Updated Actions & Traits Menu : 12 DoA sub-classes mockup. Skills from DOTA.

Here are 12 example categories show in the image above:

• Dancer
• Demon (e.g. Werewolf, Vampire)
• Musician (e.g. Songstress)
• Scribe (e.g. Artist, Writer)
• Aristocrat (e.g. Regal/Royal)
• Tracker (e.g. Hunter)
• Fortune Teller
• Tradesman
• Butler (e.g. Maid)
• Thief
• Student
• Priest (e.g. Shrine Maiden)

So by completing the Vampire quests, the Vampire rewards will appear in the Demon Arts section.
The mockup shows how the player can mix up to 5 different earned Apparel Arts to use at once. Vampire? Dancer? Why not parts from both?

[MidniteMixxy]

Traits and Actions, Buffs and Debuffs
If researched and if it seems possible, it could be possible to unlock additional traits or rare actions from Disciples of Arts, such as Enhanced Vitality (VIT+2) from Monster lore quests, or Enhanced Intelligence (INT+2) from Fortune Teller quests which can be equipped as 1 of the 5 subclass slot perks.

Buffs could also be played with. For example, A Vampire perk could gain +5 DEX and STR during night, but -7 DEX and STR during day, etc.

Vampire, Merchant, and Pirate Class from Bravely Default.

[File2ish]

That way, if (dancer) doesn't get to appear in FF14, players can still enjoy the gear and lore.

DO NOT SAY THAT. Dancer will come as a job in XIV!

...Please SE?

[Balipu]

DO NOT SAY THAT. Dancer will come as a job in XIV!

...Please SE?

Not to burst the bubble but I think out of all the classes FF had over the years, dancer is the least likely to be included in the game. Why? Because dancers remain stationary for the whole duration of a fight while channeling buffs, damaging spells and whatnot. I can't imagine how a dancer would do Titan for example. Or odin. Or any group encounter that isn't story mode Ifrit.

[kyuven]

Not to burst the bubble but I think out of all the classes FF had over the years, dancer is the least likely to be included in the game. Why? Because dancers remain stationary for the whole duration of a fight while channeling buffs, damaging spells and whatnot. I can't imagine how a dancer would do Titan for example. Or odin. Or any group encounter that isn't story mode Ifrit.

Never played FFXI did you? They're one of the most mobile classes in that game, and that game would probably serve as the template for FFXIV's version (cuz it would adapt very easily, they'd just have to decide on what role it should be focused on)

[Duelle]

Huh, can't believe I missed this thread. I like the idea, but will vehemently oppose it adding extra stats. Leave it as fluff and stuff to do outside of the normal grind, so that people that care about that sort of thing will enjoy themselves while those who don't are not forced to take part in it to be optimal.

Never played FFXI did you? They're one of the most mobile classes in that game, and that game would probably serve as the template for FFXIV's version (cuz it would adapt very easily, they'd just have to decide on what role it should be focused on)

Except XI's Dancer was a bit of a mess for almost everything that was not soloing (and even that was a combination of DNC's innate evasion traits, its high ranking with daggers, their native heals that could not be prevented by most mobs and subbing NIN for Utsusemi). Melee healers don't work, so it can't be that. Debuffing is a tertiary element (that happened to be the only reason dancers existed in most console FFs), so it can't be focused on that either. It's one of those few jobs that are legitimately difficult to fit into the game as is.

I'll concede it may be possible. Just not in a way most expect (someone on these forums suggested a variation of NIN mudras/Steps as heals).

[File2ish]

Not to burst the bubble but I think out of all the classes FF had over the years, dancer is the least likely to be included in the game. Why? Because dancers remain stationary for the whole duration of a fight while channeling buffs, damaging spells and whatnot. I can't imagine how a dancer would do Titan for example. Or odin. Or any group encounter that isn't story mode Ifrit.

Dancer has been a job in the FF series since FFV if I recall. Dancer can be implemented in many a variant of any of it's prior implementations from the series (or have a new spin of it's own for XIV).

For example, in FFXI (I mained DNC and Red Mage) Dancers were a sort of frontline Damage Dealer and Support/Healer that strictly used TP. Dancer's deal quite a good amount of damage and used TP to heal/buff themselves and the party and debuff enemies through dances (Curing Waltz, Drain Samba, Haste Samba, Quick Step, Wild Flourish, etc.). They mainly used Daggers, and eventually got native dual wield like Ninja had. If they sort of base DNC like FFXI's it could easily be a DPS with support abilities similar to how Bard is in this game (DPS with MP/TP refresh and magic defense debuff as songs. Dancer could have like Drain Samba that acts like a weaker Bloodbath, Aspir Samba to help refresh the Tank and Bard MP, and another one that isn't Haste Samba because the devs don't want to give us haste).

Or they could take a note from other games, like FF Tactics Dancer was more strictly of the support role of the debuff sort. If you did one of their dances they would continue the dance until you say to stop, each dance had it's own effect as well (one did damage, another drained enemy MP, I think one inflected Toad, etc.). They could take this concept and make Dancer like a healer. Say it has regular cures (Curing Waltz) and can do an AoE HoT that works similar to bard songs (drains MP, or TP if cures use MP).

There are a lot of possibilities and ways to implement the job just looking at the series history.

Also one does not merely stand still while dancing, dancing keeps you mobile right? I mean if a Bard can sing while dodging Landslides, I'm pretty sure a Dancer can tango around Titan's attacks. Hell, Black Mages and White Mages need to stand perfectly still to cast their magic, and you're telling me a Dancer wouldn't be able to dodge while dancing? In FF Tactics Dancers could move around while dancing (it was persistent until you canceled it), and dances weren't always a persistent ability in the job's many iterations. Just throwing that out there. :P

EDIT: And the least likely job(s) to make an appearance in this game, in my opinion, is Onion Knight and Freelancer. Never gonna happen.

[ThanMazus]

For example, in FFXI

Be prepared, this is as far as people are gonna read before they angrily mash out the reply "THIS ISN'T FFXI!!!!"