More complexity to dungeons

[Zaft]

If WoW can get 5 big sized raids per 2 years why we dont have any?

Oh man, coming from The Burning Crusade are we? Cause that's the last time we actually had 5 full-sized raids.

Classic (5): MC, BWL, AQ20, AQ40, Naxx
TBC: (6): Kara, SSC, TK, MH, BT, Sunwell (aka the best raid)
Wrath (2): Ulduar, ICC
Cata (4): BWD, BT, FL, DS
Mists (4): MSV, HoF, ToT, SoO
WoD (3, not done yet): HM, BRF, HFC

But I do agree we need better raids. Right now, every raid is just Onyxia. Kill 2 packs of trash (or none even), kill boss, repeat. No exploration, no optional content, no challenging achievements. Boooo.

Been awhile since you played wow then. Raiding has become an absolute joke and it makes fcob look overtly complicated.

Are you saying that as somebody who raids Mythic tier content, or somebody who completed LFR, maybe normal, and then claimed it was too easy? Because WoW's top-tier raid difficulty is far, far higher than anything we have on FFXIV at the moment.

[Tuathaa]

Are you saying that as somebody who raids Mythic tier content, or somebody who completed LFR, maybe normal, and then claimed it was too easy? Because WoW's top-tier raid difficulty is far, far higher than anything we have on FFXIV at the moment.

Mythic tier. Increased health pools and modified damage table does not add to complexity it only adds to difficulty. The op is asking for more complexity, something similiar to steps of faith complexity in raids.

[Zaft]

Mythic tier. Increased health pools and modified damage table does not add to complexity it only adds to difficulty. The op is asking for more complexity, something similiar to steps of faith complexity in raids.

Glad to see you've never raided Mythic. Mythic tier adds far more complex elements to every battle. For example, Hans & Franz Mythic requires you to split into two stacked groups instead of spreading out so that you can absorb Body Slam. This also means tank swapping because of shattered vertebrae. Additionally the stompers will detect player locations instead of randomly stomping across the room, and they stay down for a very long time, blocking line of sight and movement. That means you need to move as two groups, communicating where each group is going so that one does not get cut off from the other or boxed in and killed by stompers.

Also, calling Steps of Faith "complex" is hilarious. It's literally...

• Grab adds
• Fire cannon under Dragon
• Fire dragon killer and snare as necessary

It doesn't even require ANY communication whatsoever.