FCoB ilvl Requirement too high?

[AyaLiz]

As far as the item levels themselves, I personally think the Ilvl requirement for the final turn should be 125, due to HP constraints. Most casters: BLM, SMN, SCH, and WHM will typically not have the 6K HP needed to survive without such a high item level requirement. Not to mention the debuffs that may or may not be available, such as Dragon's Kick, Virus, etc.

Echo should largely fix any HP related concerns and i123 would let people who are mostly i130 with a bunch of crafted gear queue without having to inflate their itemlevel with inferior i130 gear (I am aware that you can just switch it out once inside). I don't think any amount of HP is going to save you if the duty finder queue decides to put together a group of two paladins, two white mages and no summoner or monk. I very much hope that the system tries to have one of each tanking and healing job in each group, you should be able to make do with any given setup of DPS jobs if that's the case.

[Lyrinn]

Please stop the spreading of false information right here. Nothing is stopping you from joining your group of 8 people and Queuing up straight away for Turn 13. This hasn't changed, at all. You could take an ilvl 80 into that turn with you if that's what you really want to do.

This is false, unless it has been fixed since SCoB was unlocked.

As far as the item levels themselves, I personally think the Ilvl requirement for the final turn should be 125, due to HP constraints.

It's fine where it's at now because many people use pentamelded i110 accessories, which lower your average ilvl.

[Vid]

It's fine where it's at now because many people use pentamelded i110 accessories, which lower your average ilvl.

Many raiding people yes, not PUGs which is what I'm conveying about the ilvl requirement. Would think most people who are doing said content by now would at least have some extra gear (either from drops or poetics) to put on to meet the ilvl requirement if it becomes a problem.

[Skeith-Adeline]

Many raiding people yes, not PUGs which is what I'm conveying about the ilvl requirement. Would think most people who are doing said content by now would at least have some extra gear (either from drops or poetics) to put on to meet the ilvl requirement if it becomes a problem.

No issue. If you can't reach the requirement, gather gear, or find a group. End.

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

Yea im pretty sure if a member doesnt meet the ilvl requirement he wont be able to get in now. You will get a message saying someone doesnt meet requirements. It's been the same with turn 9, and all other content. I really hope this doesnt effect my group. I'm really not liking all these random rule changes every few weeks personally. Make it one way and keep it that way.

Also HP requirements are kinda pointless if echo is giving you an extra 600-700 HP.

[Viridiana]

As far as the item levels themselves, I personally think the Ilvl requirement for the final turn should be 125, due to HP constraints. Most casters: BLM, SMN, SCH, and WHM will typically not have the 6K HP needed to survive without such a high item level requirement.

HP requirements would matter if the ilvl calculation actually weighted slots differently. Or if ilvl were actually a reflection of HP. http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/QGBO +10% Echo should meet T13 HP requirements (based on a guide), yet you can't take that into T13.

Edit to remove mistaken sentence about a second gear set I had up.

[Alkimi]

HP requirements would matter if the ilvl calculation actually weighted slots differently. Or if ilvl were actually a reflection of HP. http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/QGBO +10% Echo should meet T13 HP requirements (based on a guide), yet you can't take that into T13.

Edit to remove mistaken sentence about a second gear set I had up.

Above all, weapon alone should be weighted much higher than any other gear. As it stands you could enter with an i55 weapon and still meet the requirements if the rest of your gear is 130.

[Skeith-Adeline]

Okay seriously? ...no seriously? If my group was able to clear through 12 back in November with our welfare gear, then there is no excuse.

[CGMidlander]

I think T10-12 could be pared back 5 ilvls to no ill effect, personally (105 for T10, 110 for T11, 115 for T12) -- especially with echo.

[Adrian74]

As an all-arounder, gearing up is more difficult, but, because that, farming FCOB is awesome, even if the chances of doing it in DF are very low, it's better than nothing since I no longer have a raid....

But... Now I can't go with my SCH to t13 and take its robe, basically because only ilevel 117. (And funny thing is it has many i120-130 stuff in the left side, and Last Resort Zeta full mega-meld. Well, aside of this, only my arcanist and my bard don't meet most of the ilevel requirements, but I agree it is a bit high....