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    A little annoyed that Poetics cap isn't removed. It'd be nice to start collecting some BiS pieces...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    T9 never got a nerf, iirc. So...

    (Also Echo isn't a nerf since mechanics are the number one killer in Coil, and those tend to be live or die type mechanics regardless of HP totals)
    It can definitely make a difference depending on group. My FC's T9 groups were actually greatly aided by a 5% echo boost because it gave some additional stability to the phase change into final phase without having to blow LB, due to the way our DPS worked out. It also amplifies the margin of error on a number of things - "just barely killed" becomes "just barely survived" (such as back to back meteor streams).

    This isn't to say that it's going to neuter a lot of mechanics though, because a lot of them are still going to be fatal and major focal points, but, better stats can make a difference.
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    So no Steps of Faith adjustments? Just avoid Trials Roulette like the plague or instant dropout and take the 30 minute penalty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizarus View Post
    So no Steps of Faith adjustments? Just avoid Trials Roulette like the plague or instant dropout and take the 30 minute penalty?
    Or, you know, try and help out the newbies. Its not a hard fight unless half the group isn't listening, and you won't know if its a bust until you give it a shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizarus View Post
    So no Steps of Faith adjustments? Just avoid Trials Roulette like the plague or instant dropout and take the 30 minute penalty?
    OR or....lead the group to...victory? Wait no that would require work, sorry please ignore what I said.
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    Am I forgiven....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizarus View Post
    So no Steps of Faith adjustments? Just avoid Trials Roulette like the plague or instant dropout and take the 30 minute penalty?
    I did Trial Roulette this morning before work. Got Steps. Half the party were new. We -gasp- actually communicated with each other, gave a basic rundown on what to do and we one shot Vishap before he broke the 3rd ward.

    Steps doesn't need a nerf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    Its not a hard fight unless half the group isn't listening
    I'm not sure if you've ever used the duty finder on that fight, but literally nobody listens. I explain roles, and what to do for every class to make things easy, and it's still absolute chaos. I don't even touch trial roulette anymore thanks to that garbage, I farm my poetics from FCoB, since apparently that is easier to clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LTEvil View Post
    OR or....lead the group to...victory? Wait no that would require work, sorry please ignore what I said.
    This. I actually enjoy helping groups clear content they're struggling with - if more people did, maybe this chasm between coilers and everyone else wouldn't be so enormous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zell1226 View Post
    I'm not sure if you've ever used the duty finder on that fight, but literally nobody listens. I explain roles, and what to do for every class to make things easy, and it's still absolute chaos. I don't even touch trial roulette anymore thanks to that garbage, I farm my poetics from FCoB, since apparently that is easier to clear.
    5 times in a row all 5 successes, 3 of them one shots. Done a couple more that were also successes, but I need Zodiac drops more than anything else and Trial rol doesn't help that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seekified View Post
    This. I actually enjoy helping groups clear content they're struggling with - if more people did, maybe this chasm between coilers and everyone else wouldn't be so enormous.
    Helping is nice but Trial Roulette was supposed to be a quick thing that you can queue and enjoy some fast content and be over with it. 40min of doing SoF to help people is fine the first time, but after the 5th time it's just too much. They should have moved it to the main story roulette or something. You might say that if you don't like it, don't queue, but that's exactly what me and probably many others have done, increasing queue times in general.
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