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    Umm....Im thinking for future releases of 24 man content. Isnt it better to have 3 sets to choose from? (Basicly) all the 24 man gear now is just glamour and alt gear, since you can get max level gear from farming tomes and hunts. Poetic gear is easier to come by than 24man raid gear. You just need to do your dailies to get an poetics peice every 7 or 14 days, and some hunts to upgrade it. How will having 3 sets to choose from make DR and poetics gear useless? You will stil need peices from all the 3 sets to build your BiS. My class has nothing to do with asking for this. I want it for future content!

    Why it's easier for Bards? That varies from patch to patch who its easier for so you are asking a pointless question. Not that having a WoD drop beeing BiS over a poetics peice makes it easier anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunnaRavenheart View Post
    No thank you.

    Itemization is problem in FFXIV but shouldnt be solved at way you mentioned. There is no point for your suggestion.
    The point is you get 3 sets to make your BiS from. I dont see how that is pointless? The way it is now 24 man raid gear is just alt junk mostly. Better for it to actually serve a purpose other than beeing a filler peice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VenuzKh View Post
    The point is you get 3 sets to make your BiS from. I dont see how that is pointless? The way it is now 24 man raid gear is just alt junk mostly. Better for it to actually serve a purpose other than beeing a filler peice.
    For vet players tower is really boring even once per week not to farm it for some gear. There is no challange and its mostly afk fights which most of vets want to avoid plus BIS you can get from crafted gear.
    For casual players BIS doesnt matter since they big dps loose is not due to gear but poor execution of rotations and fight mechanics.
    As for itemizations the problem is: there is no many possibilities in endgame content. There should be more than 1 high endgame content with different set of items. Also game is completly lacking middle-tier endgame content with their sets of items. What we have is 1 high endgame raid and 1 faceroll raid you can even afk whole fight with autoattack. Thats the problem of itemization. Game needs more endgame content with various levels of difficulty and their sets of items.
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    Last edited by LunnaRavenheart; 04-21-2015 at 08:44 PM.

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    Karis Angara
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunnaRavenheart View Post
    Also game is completly lacking middle-tier endgame content with their sets of items. What we have is 1 high endgame raid and 1 faceroll raid you can even afk whole fight with autoattack. Thats the problem of itemization. Game needs more endgame content with various levels of difficulty and their sets of items.
    This is a very real problem. As someone who raids three times a week, I could easily imagine stepping down to "mid-tier" content on my other days to pass time and gear alts, but doing CT-ST-WoD over and over is a complete bore as it offers so few interesting mechanics requiring my attention.

    I want Pharos-style dungeons back, damnit.
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    Here's a novel idea, everyone that wastes time posting things like: "nope it will never work, OP is a derp". How about instead of just posting for the sake of being argumentative, spell out your legit reasons for why said idea won't work.

    Seeing this all over the forums, bunch of lazy bums just popping into a thread to say some useless garbage with the intent of inciting animosity.

    If you're going to critique ppl with a even somewhat fleshed out idea don't just waste everyone's time by offering counter arguments or offers without any substance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee View Post
    Here's a novel idea, everyone that wastes time posting things like: "nope it will never work, OP is a derp". How about instead of just posting for the sake of being argumentative, spell out your legit reasons for why said idea won't work.

    Seeing this all over the forums, bunch of lazy bums just popping into a thread to say some useless garbage with the intent of inciting animosity.

    If you're going to critique ppl with a even somewhat fleshed out idea don't just waste everyone's time by offering counter arguments or offers without any substance.
    Actually I posted ideas, who didnt is YOU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VenuzKh View Post

    Why it's easier for Bards? That varies from patch to patch who its easier for so you are asking a pointless question. Not that having a WoD drop beeing BiS over a poetics peice makes it easier anyway.
    Anyone can do WoD. In such a large raid you don't even have to try you can be carried and people barely notice. EXDR you actually have to farm tomes some parts like the chest are about 2 weeks worth to farm for. You can get your drop from WoD in a day or even a single run depending on RNG so yes it's much easier in every single way and you know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunnaRavenheart View Post
    Actually I posted ideas, who didnt is YOU.
    If you posted an idea then whats the point of replying to my post? The declaration of my idea is stated clearly in the first two words of my post, so you're wrong on that account.

    A bit daft...

    On topic, I see no problem with the OPs idea. More gear upgrades are viable given the cap increase will be hitting soon. It will be yet another way to keep old raids relevant on a players journey to 60.
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    Last edited by AreeyaJaidee; 04-22-2015 at 01:33 AM.

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    Alahra Valkhir
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    I was talking about this with my LS-mates a lot pre-2.5. I think it would be a fine idea, really. The argument that "anyone" can do WoD is a patently silly one since "anyone" can get Poetics and get that gear as well. Keep the upgrade items scarce, just as they have done with Tomestone gear, and it gives us more gear options and more reason to do the content.

    Honestly, I'd prefer they removed upgrade items from Hunts altogether (or limited them to 1/week as they currently are from the 24-man), and the two things done in concert would largely cull item-level inflation while increasing the options available to us for gear . Currently, the choice between an augmented item or the Coil item is usually pretty clear as long as you know your class's stat priorities, which makes the actual choices in gearing largely pretty minimal.

    If they were to make the upgraded versions of 24-man gear dyable, this would also increase our options for glamour, too, which is always a plus.
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    There is more then enough gear options out there.
    CT, ST, and Wod are just sooooo boring and not worth the time of day other then weekly quest or bonus light for Relic. Besides what would be the point in having upgradeable tower gear when Heavansward is not too far away and will bring new gear?
    And why is it easier for Bard? Well when CT was first introduced ALL that ever dropped was Bard and Monk gear (Crimson Robe took well over 80 runs to drop) Wod has been the same in that regard that for the most part all that would ever drop is Bard gear. I still have yet to see Caster Robe drop more then the one time i seen it and lost the roll.... I know it varies by player but my level of frustration with wod, yaargh
    Also back in the day of myth gear, that stuff would take weeks to get, now they have made available so many gear options and even gearing achievable for those really lazy people XD
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