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    Make Crystal Tower loot upgradable!

    At the moment we only have 2 sets at max level to build our BiS from! I'm thinking why not make the new 24 man raids loot upgradable the same way poe / sold gear is? If would make it more interesting to have more sets at max level to build your BiS from! Some might say it would be like handing out max level loot, but its stil more difficult to get than your tokens gear. And you stil would need an item (either from raids, hunts or weekly quest?) to upgrade it to the same item level as the HC conent.

    Any thoughts on this?
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    Jordan O'niell
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    Just for clarification:

    Were you looking for an option that would allow you to upgrade ST gear to DoW gear without having to roll spam DoW constantly and praying to RNGesus?
    Or, were you looking for an option that would allow you to upgrade ST gear (i100) to an i110 version and subsequently, DoW gear (i120) to an i130 version?
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    Sorry if my post was messy!

    What I ment was beeing able to upgrade it the same way tomes gear is upgradeable. ST gear to i110, WoD gear to i130. It would gives us three sets, instead of two, at max level to build our BiS from.

    But I was more thinking about future gear sets, if they will work the same was as now with upgraded token gear and raid gear at max level. Why not do it so the 24 man drops are also upgradable to max item level? Makes for more interesting gear builds.
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    I like your idea but I think the coils would be deserted if they did this, most people only subject themselves to them for the gear, not the 'fun' experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HexWeaver View Post
    I like your idea but I think the coils would be deserted if they did this, most people only subject themselves to them for the gear, not the 'fun' experience.
    That doesn't make sense. Only reason you need gear is to do coil, otherwise the magitek pieces are more than enough.
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    YoshiP did mention they want to have more horizonal gearing options going forward.

    But towers are casual raids with just a one-item lockout initially but one can run them as much as needed to get what they desire. Not as restricted as coil is, as one can only clear coil turns once a week, regardless if they get any loot during progression months until the lockout is removed.

    All this is done to prevent substantual gear ilvl inflation too fast, just like how the latest tome (poetics) is always capped weekly.

    Considering some WoD pieces are BiS for some jobs because Ironworks and Dreadwyrm options have subpar secondary stats (BRD chest and SCH gloves for-example), it's not all bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VargasVermillion View Post
    That doesn't make sense. Only reason you need gear is to do coil, otherwise the magitek pieces are more than enough.
    A lot of people only do coil so that they can mix and match between coil and poetic pieces of equipment to achieve the best stats they can. If you gave people i130 equipment to choose from via poetics, coil and crystal tower raids a lot of people wouldn't be bothered trying to attempt coil (Wouldn't blame them.) Not everyone plays with final coil being the end in mind, there are plenty of players out there who just like to gear themselves up over time and are drawn in by coil solely for the loot. Plenty of my friends are learning final coil right now just to get the loot.
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    The 24 man raid comes 3 months after the highest raid tier has been introduced tho, so there isnt a risk of ilevel inflation! And to get BiS you would stil need to run Coil and it would also be the only place to get max item level right side peices other than tomestones.
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    There are only a couple of cases where BiS gear is in the WoD set which of course is why we have a Bard asking for this because it matters pretty much only for them. The 24 man raids are optional casual content making it easier for players to get gear they can do other stuff with if you make that upgradeable then what is the point of EXDR and poetics? Why does it have to be harder for most players to get a BiS set but easier for Bards?

    The last thing i want is even more Bards in WoD who never stay beyond the second boss.
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    No thank you.

    Itemization is problem in FFXIV but shouldnt be solved at way you mentioned. There is no point for your suggestion.
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