General Game Performance - Anyone Else Feel The Way I Do?

[Rydin]

Thank you Rydinand Delsus for you input, i will look into the video card, i have another quick question that might be related, but every so often my computer reboots during play of ffxiv, it only happens once in a while, it actually just happened whiched reminded me of my post here, so i decided to come check to see if my computer is the issue. I dont think it is overheating but im not sure. I dont understand why it only happens every so often. Any help would be great!!
thanks agian

edit= with this Radeon 5870 will i need a new power supply?

You can google Power supply calculator and there is a good one that gets updated regularly called "eXtreme Power Supply Calculator" that lets you put in your system specs and it will give you your peak power draw
adding a 5870... you could squeak by with 500+ but I'd really REALLY recommend having 650 or so of a good tier3 or higher power supply

[CK11]

You can google Power supply calculator and there is a good one that gets updated regularly called "eXtreme Power Supply Calculator" that lets you put in your system specs and it will give you your peak power draw
adding a 5870... you could squeak by with 500+ but I'd really REALLY recommend having 650 or so of a good tier3 or higher power supply

so, do you know what would cause my pc to just reboot like that!?

edit* just and FYI my power supply is 700W

[Rydin]

so, do you know what would cause my pc to just reboot like that!?

Could be heat... could be power supply related...
could be both....
Check your mother board for blown capacitors...
I'd say check your power supply for blown capacitors also... if you are comfortable opening it up....
Monitor your CPU temp and see if it gets very hot right before it restarts....

I can't possibly give a definitive answer over the internet...
But... I have seen blown capacitors cause this type of problem before... Thats where I'd put my money....

You can google images of blown capacitors... once you know what to look for... its pretty easy to check... even a little of the fluid leaking out of the top or any of the capacitors looking puffy will indicate a problem

[CK11]

it is very random when this happens, after it happen today, i logged back on for about 4-5 hours with no issues at all....
i edited my previous post to say that my Power supply is 700w

what would you concider a high temp, it doesnt get much higher than 60c

Is there a way to cool my PC more...i have what looks like 3-4 fans already?

[Rydin]

it is very random when this happens, after it happen today, i logged back on for about 4-5 hours with no issues at all....
i edited my previous post to say that my Power supply is 700w

thats more than adequate.... as long as it has the proper 6pin or 8pin connectors for whatever GPU you get
I would really check those caps though

[Coldfire]

PSU is No. one to fail in this game xD

[Aenarion]

it is very random when this happens, after it happen today, i logged back on for about 4-5 hours with no issues at all....
i edited my previous post to say that my Power supply is 700w

what would you concider a high temp, it doesnt get much higher than 60c

Is there a way to cool my PC more...i have what looks like 3-4 fans already?

system instability can be caused by many things. Could be software, could be temperature, could be a myriad of hardware incompatibilities / failures, from memory/cpu/mobo/psu/gpu, the key is to test and isolate the issue.

what's the 60c for? cpu or gpu? what other programs are running along with the game client? when's the last time you cleaned your heatsinks? etc. etc.

[Okiura]

This game is really badly optimized no matter how you look at it
My laptop has;

2xSSD setup Raid-0,
1.7ghz Core i7,
2xHD4870's 1gb,
6gb 1600MHz DDR3 RAM.

Up until FFXIV i've never had any "trouble" playing any games on maxed settings, games like Witcher2, GTXIV, DAO, DA2 and many more.

i don't exactly have issues running FFXIV but if you compare performace with those listeded above it's way below par. my only real issue is the 1-3ms feeze i get every few seconds, not a major issue but it is a issue.

So i did a few test's to try and narrow down the issues to see if there was a way to tweak somethings my end to improve performance. so first thing i did is found a nice quite spot in the world no mobs, no players just a few rocks and trees. I did this to reduce as much as possible any lag that is related to the server lag issues (same one that makes managing you retainer very painful). to try and keep the tests constant i set everything to standard and 2xMSAA.

what i found is may laptop can run 2 instances of FFXIV on 1 card (both windowed so no Xfire) as well as it does 1 instance on both cards, both tests were averaging the same FPS (30-40). next i reduced the clock speed of both the core and memory of my GPUs it wasn't until and hit the lowest possible clock speeds did i get any drop in FPS.
what this tells me is that although my GPU load at a constant 90-95%, clock speed doesn't seem to be a big factor, at the reduced clock speed i would have expected the GPU load and FPS to reduce significantly. this is very strange so whats with the high load?

next test ultra low settings, everything cranked down to the lowest settings. same tests as above with the same results only difference being the GPU load was 70% ish. so for some reason this game has a high graphics load even in the lowest possible settings this isn't normal behavior for any game. ^^

i have seen many people say they have very few problems graphics wise and it also appears most of those ppl are using Nvidia "hmm now which GPU in in the ps3? that right a Nvidia one" i would love to run similar tests on a Nvidia setup but sadly my Nvidia box is 8k miles away form me.

During the tests above i also restricted my my CPU to 4 cores and 1.2ghz and there was no significant performance reduction at the test location, the same restriction in town however was painfully slow which as expected mean the delay in town is to do more with CPU/HDD/Server speed and not graphics performance.

this game is in dire need of graphical optimization, at least for the ATI users out there.