General Game Performance - Anyone Else Feel The Way I Do?

[goonMagi]

I just thought the amount of info I gave about my computer would suffice. Again, this was never intended to be a discussion on what hardware I am using.

With that being said, I am glad people have responded with such interesting information. There seems to be a lot of people who say that their system isn't stressed, but they still feel the clunky effect of the game loading in new objects. This is definitely something that I wanted to zero in on and find out more about, with regards to how other players feel. If it's true that this is just how the system is designed then I hope that it would be continuously brought to the attention of developers. Having an issue like this stick to the game for it's entirety would be quite sad.

thanks all!

[zoozoo]

Can anyone who says they don't have a problem with the game running provide a video of them running through Uldah?

Let's say: Start at the crystal, and run to the levequest counter. No matter what settings I put it on, I always get lag. Also post your system specs so I can try and figure out where the problem is with mine. (I'm betting nvidia cards run better).

[Coldfire]

With crossfire disabled my primary HD5870 would probably burn if it wasn't watercooled. 100% usage and 40°C water temp. is pretty high. CPU and memory isn't used much but whenever I'm in town I can hear my HDD scream xD
Just imagine the loading lag with the PS3 bluray drive... epic failure if released like this.

[Delsus]

With crossfire disabled my primary HD5870 would probably burn if it wasn't watercooled. 100% usage and 40°C water temp. is pretty high. CPU and memory isn't used much but whenever I'm in town I can hear my HDD scream xD
Just imagine the loading lag with the PS3 bluray drive... epic failure if released like this.

PS3 will probably run like FFXI ran on ps2, you will install most of the game to the HDD, but you will need the bluray to play it.

Also i can almost guarentee that the loading lag is because of the physical speed of HDDs, the best option to lower loading lag is to invest in a SSD to install FFXIV on, I have heard that this can reduce loading lag alot, it could be the optimisation of the game or it could just be that so much information needs to be loaded at once.

[Coldfire]

Right... everyone has to buy an SSD(for 150 bucks) for this game. Or they could just fix it? <.<

[northernsky]

PS3 will probably run like FFXI ran on ps2, you will install most of the game to the HDD, but you will need the bluray to play it.

Also i can almost guarentee that the loading lag is because of the physical speed of HDDs, the best option to lower loading lag is to invest in a SSD to install FFXIV on, I have heard that this can reduce loading lag alot, it could be the optimisation of the game or it could just be that so much information needs to be loaded at once.

lol nice sig, I was creeping out for a moment

[Coldfire]

PHP sigs with IP, browser, OS, etc. are so old they have a beard :P

[northernsky]

Well it fits me well in terms of internet/computer skills, you would understand if you could see the infos on the sig lol

[Delsus]

lol nice sig, I was creeping out for a moment

PHP sigs with IP, browser, OS, etc. are so old they have a beard :P

Well it fits me well in terms of internet/computer skills, you would understand if you could see the infos on the sig lol

It fits me nicely because I have a degree in networking, love being geeky

But if the stuttering and loading lag annoys you then the only thing you can do is get a SSD, put up with it until its fixed or quit playing, your only options atm.

[oberonQA]

I just thought the amount of info I gave about my computer would suffice. Again, this was never intended to be a discussion on what hardware I am using.

With that being said, I am glad people have responded with such interesting information. There seems to be a lot of people who say that their system isn't stressed, but they still feel the clunky effect of the game loading in new objects. This is definitely something that I wanted to zero in on and find out more about, with regards to how other players feel. If it's true that this is just how the system is designed then I hope that it would be continuously brought to the attention of developers. Having an issue like this stick to the game for it's entirety would be quite sad.

thanks all!

So your not really interested in finding a solution to the problem... you just want people to be aware of the fact that your experiencing problems running the game.

One question for you then... why should the developers (or anyone else for that matter) give your situation any thought if your not willing to do the due diligence in isolating the cause of the problem? I don't disagree that the game has issues, but what your describing doesn't sound like a game issue. If it was truly a game issue, you would experience problems in the game that would be isolated to the game and wouldn't affect things outside the game.

I take it when you try listening to music while you play, you get a lot of audio stuttering and/or popping. Am I right? This is a classic sign of the hardware being overextended... either as a result of misconfiguration, insufficient resources, or thermal throttling. The game being choppy would have zero effect on other programs or processes running unless one of the the things I mentioned is occurring.

Yes the game has some clunkiness when it comes to loading new objects. But as myself and others have pointed out, it is only really noticeable in Ul'dah, which happens to be where most people happen to gather. Static geometry isn't causing the stutter, as if that was the case it would be occurring everywhere (oh wait, it's occurring everywhere on your machine... everyone else only experiences it in Ul'dah). The stuttering problem is most likely related to the texture buffer, which gets overloaded in highly populated areas that are full of models with different textures (as opposed to a standard "palette" of textures that would be present in an area that is full of copies of a specific set of textures). There are two causes for this problem:

1) The game's internal texture buffer sub-system isn't optimized to handle an excessive amount of unique textures being loaded all at once, requiring the game to load new textures to the buffer, display the model that uses the texture, then unload the texture to a cache in order to make room for a new texture to be loaded up... saving the textures in a cache so the texture can be recalled again when needed.

2) The game's default texture size is so large that it eats up the texture memory on a video card at a much faster rate, requiring the game to load textures to a cache on the hard drive (which is slower than loading into VRAM). There are reports of people using SLI/Crossfire setups that are not experiencing this problem, which makes sense since your standard SLI setup has access to 3GB's of VRAM (as opposed to a single card's 1.5GB's of VRAM) and your standard Crossfire setup has access to 2GB's of VRAM (as opposed to a single card's 1GB of VRAM). The more VRAM the game has access to, the bigger the game's internal texture buffer is.

It's entirely possible the problem is a combination of the two. But again, I must reiterate, this problem would affect the graphic performance of the game... not the general multitasking capabilities of your computer. The fact that your experiencing this problem everywhere in the game (regardless of where you happen to be) and your computer looses multitasking efficiency suggests your computer is overextended, which is exasperating the problem in the game.

But whatever... your not interested in finding a solution to your problem... you just want to complain and your looking for people that share the same opinion as you. Good luck getting S-E's attention... especially now that you've provided such a narrow scope for the conversation.