Heavensward Item levels etc

[Judge_Xero]

I'm not sure what to think TBH. Unless there is a gear alteration on 3.0 then we will have some weird gear scaling post level 50.

For example
- iLvL Stat scaling is the same as gear level scaling but is not Linear to gear level scaling.

So that means we could have level 60 gear with the same stats as i90 gear.

But....

Def/MDef scales entirely different.

Looking at a tank i130 body piece with 167 Defense - I estimate a lvl 60 piece to have around 218.

If nothing changes in 3.0 will we be better off with lower stats and higher Def for the initial sets of gear?

[Zumi]

If they go the WoW route there could be a 100 item level jump between the last raid gear and the first raid at the new level cap. Its not out of the realm of possibility because every expansion in that game had about a 80-100 ilvl increase between expansions.

Yoshi P does like a lot of stuff Blizzard does so he may choose to do this. I wouldn't mind if he did so we can see that are characters are much stronger at 60. Nobody in this topic knows what the actual ilvls will be though because they haven't said anything about what the new gear will be.

[Skeith-Adeline]

lol I feel like nobody watches, or reads, the live letters.

[Zumi]

lol I feel like nobody watches, or reads, the live letters.

The only thing they said in the live letters about ilvls is there will be a larger ilvl spread then previously.

[Firepower]

My assumption would be that the i130 stuff would be the "best" until 60 again where it then starts at 140/150+.

I would also assume that level 51+ gear SHOULD start at i90 simply because since almost all content after level 50 will be gated behind the story in ishgard players will almost certainly be required to get to item level 90+ before continuing on the story after level 50. Since they announced there is no level cap and you will just continue levelling it would make sense to allow players who are 51+ (without 90+ ilevel) to not have to grind level 50 dungeons just to get access to the next areas in the game.

Perhaps a level 55 job quest that rewarded a complete set of the jobs mythology armour (now claimable with antique pieces) I'm not sure what they have planned to ease the ilevel gap between a fresh 50 and getting to i90 for ishgard but I am sure they have some way of dealing with it.

[TThibi]

Hate to burst bubbles and they are large, but the best option for the expansion would be to eliminate ilvls from all level 50 gear. Essentially your awesome gear set? becomes glam gear, be glad that is an option. Say it ain't so? it's SE's standard MO for level cap lifts enjoy. People seem to be under the impression leveling to 60 will be a walk in the park, another bubble to burst SE is known for the tactic (ffxi vet) new cap 60? look for double tnl 50-51, triple 51-52 and on and on until 60 is reached, this will not be reduced for a year at least.
For god sakes why? To make room for 51-60 gear, and weapons without allowing players to use overpowered items the whole way, to keep FFXI from becoming WoW, lvl 60 players in 1 day, then yelling for raids and endgame equipment gives time for players to discover things and enjoy the expansion. This is the reality of SE MMO's and people need to be prepared for it.

[Garotte14]

My theory is that they'll just mirror 2.0 but by 100 levels. Artifact gear when you get to level 60 will be i150. They will have i170 gear probably in Alexander normal/law tomes much like the i70 darklight gear. Then have esoterics/Alexander savage being i190 like our myth gear and BcoB in 2.0.

[Zumi]

Most likely gear progression will go. They have a much bigger range to work with this time due to having 2 difficulties on the raid. But who knows what the ilvls will be.

From lowerst to highest
51-60 leveling gear
60 AF2
Lvl 60 Dungeon drops
Allagen Tomestones of Law
Alexander Normal mode + Primal Hard modes (Bismark and Ravana)
Allagen Tomestones of Esoterics
Alexander Savage mode (Also has upgrade items that let you upgrade the ilvl of Esoterics to the same ilvl as savage mode drops)

[Felis]

Looking at a tank i130 body piece with 167 Defense - I estimate a lvl 60 piece to have around 218.

A lv 60 tank body with ilevel 130 would still have the same def as a lv 50 tank body with ilevel 130

level determine what level your class/job need to wear it.
ilevel determine how high the maximal stats on the gear can be.

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

"Hey guys, I dont need to farm law tomes, cuz my level 50 gear is good enough lolz!, Now lets go do Alexander easy mode <(^.^<)"

Please god no! level 60 gear needs to be at least 40 ilvls higher IMO. We are going to start making WoW look like a "hardcore" game pretty soon if this is the norm.