Thread: Patch 2.56 comming April 21

i will LOL if they remove the poetic tomes but they wouldnt be so nice they probably figure its too early make it happen!!

Originally Posted by DarkDedede

While I may not be as invested in the accomplishment as you are, I can appreciate the frustration. I really think that they should have two versions of the raids. They should always have the original version of the raid available, including an iLvl cap (for whatever the max gear was at the time). When they do decide to "nerf" the raid, they should add it as a separate instance option.

For the people that want to experience the content, in it's original form, the devs can give them an achievement with a title, so they can display their accomplishment with pride. For the more casual player, the "nerfed" version can also act as a practice run, for if and when they would like to experience the content themselves.

Like what they're planning to do with the Alexander Raid in the new expansion? Where there's a Easy mode, for everyone to clear with ease, and Hard mode where it's hardcore raid content with better drops but both sharing the same story?

Honestly the only reason I'm doing FCoB is not for the drops, or for the fights, but the damn story locked behind it. That's all I want it after that I'm not exactly touching the Coils anymore.

I do know the excited and joy of finally beating the wall to get to the next Coil like I did with T5, after so many failed attempts at it post-patch finally the small group of friends of mine and some randoms finally beat it and I could move to Second Coil. However in T9 I wanted to clear it but the mechanics there were too many for to properly memorize and not only that it was hard to find a group via PF and some people just leave after a wipe of two.

My FC had to come in and "carry" me through the fight (it took a second attempt at this because during the last phase someone got blindsided, a Healer, and the fight came down) by saying to die before Golems and I did and laid there on the group as the other 7 members of my FC. I wanted to do the fight properly but they said "No, no, it's alright! Just stay there and we'll give the clear to you so you can do FCoB with us!" and though I got the clear and I'm no hardcore raider I felt sort of "cheated" that I had to be carried to get to FCoB.

Though I don't really care that much as I wanted to beat it solely to see the story cutscenes and I refuse to watch it on YouTube as I want to see MY character in them and MY character interact with the cast.

I don't mind hardcore raids, but if you're locking a very vital story element behind it then make two separate modes for those who want the story and those who want better gear.

Originally Posted by Gilraen

If Second and Final Coil are really 20% easier then why are people STILL having problems with them?

Final coil isn't at 20% yet. It's doesn't have any echo yet and this patch will likely add something.

Originally Posted by Gilraen

A company mate of mine runs a static and has made many runs on Turn 9 and still has yet to get a win. He's not some noobie, either, he's a Legacy just like me and has been on the forefront of all the content this game has to offer. I don't get this resentment over the easing of difficulty on Coil, those who care about it have all done it already. Let those who can't get a static group enjoy it for a change.

I'll respond with another quote.

Originally Posted by Gardes

With all that time spent you could have just formed a network of capable players and cleared the already-20%-easier fight already.

My friends and I are those network of capable players for a lot of people. I've walked in and in less than 5 tries gotten people wins when they had never even been in the fight before. We've done this well over a dozen times, probably closer to 20. This is an MMO. It's up to you to create a network of players to help you get things done.

Simply put you aren't surrounding yourself with skilled players to help you do things. This is an MMO. You must be social. If you still cant beat it with 20% echo then your social network is simply awful and that my friend is a personal problem. 20% echo and a entire 20 ilvls of gear higher than the fight was designed with is more than adequate to get a win by just knowing how the mechanics work. Stop expecting things to be handed to you. Stop complaining on the forums where you aren't getting anything done. Get in game. Make friends with players that are skilled enough to complete content. It is you who are continuously failing to do that. You may try to say this is all assumptions, and that I don't know anything about you. I back this all up with my personal experiences of helping people get wins over many months and knowing personally what I've seen work repeatedly. Just because you're already in a static doesn't mean it's full of quality members either. We had to prune our static for over a year before we had a true winning team so even just saying "but I'm in a static" is completely inadequate. If you aren't getting the win, and you are trying as you say, then you clearly don't have a skillful set of friends to play with or you wouldn't be here complaining still.

Take some personal responsibility for your progress.

Poetics weekly cap unlock...maybe? hopefully?

Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis

How about another upgrade to zodiac weapon? Item level 145, yes please!!

Apocolypse Tera and Nirvana Tera here I come!!!!

I totally gave up on my weapon after getting it to i100. Seriously, 9 hours of grinding atamas, and it actually used to be worse than this? Least fun thing I've ever done in a game. No way am I spending hours and hours doing more crap like that. I come home from work to have fun and that is not fun in the slightest!

Apparently they are changing the weapon quests in the expansion, so no point in it anyways. On another note, I have mad respect for those who have actually been able to complete the weapon to i135 status.

Originally Posted by Elmeron

I totally gave up on my weapon after getting it to i100. Seriously, 9 hours of grinding atamas, and it actually used to be worse than this? Least fun thing I've ever done in a game. No way am I spending hours and hours doing more crap like that. I come home from work to have fun and that is not fun in the slightest!

Apparently they are changing the weapon quests in the expansion, so no point in it anyways. On another note, I have mad respect for those who have actually been able to complete the weapon to i135 status.

I've done the Atmas BEFORE the nerf... took me a month to get all 12 of them for my PLD (and less than a month for my NIN post-patch) and took me 13 days for Animus Books to be done, a little longer of NIN as I wasn't in a hurry.

Honestly I hate the Animus phase the most (though I think Zodiac Items will be there as well) as 9 books and not being all to have all 9 on you at a time to complete them post-haste. I wish they changed it that each book contains one group of objects to do like kill 50 enemies in this nation here and another 50 here. At least make it unique a bit.

I got my Zeta weapon for Ninja, but it was a pain at times to get the drops but I was lucky. 15 more to go for my Zodiac PLD weapon.

I'm kinda drained honestly.