Thread: Patch 2.56 comming April 21

If Second and Final Coil are really 20% easier then why are people STILL having problems with them? A company mate of mine runs a static and has made many runs on Turn 9 and still has yet to get a win. He's not some noobie, either, he's a Legacy just like me and has been on the forefront of all the content this game has to offer. I don't get this resentment over the easing of difficulty on Coil, those who care about it have all done it already. Let those who can't get a static group enjoy it for a change.

Originally Posted by Gilraen

If Second and Final Coil are really 20% easier then why are people STILL having problems with them? A company mate of mine runs a static and has made many runs on Turn 9 and still has yet to get a win. He's not some noobie, either, he's a Legacy just like me and has been on the forefront of all the content this game has to offer. I don't get this resentment over the easing of difficulty on Coil, those who care about it have all done it already. Let those who can't get a static group enjoy it for a change.

T9 didn't get nerfs, only the Echo added to it, which is why it retains its difficulty.

While it is of course clearable (since the DPS check is pretty much non existant now) it doesn't change the Fact that it is still pretty hard content, especially since messing up the Mechanics still murders you.
I did finish it over PF, though I also failed MANY Times since one ... challenged ... Person can still easily produce a wipe -.- (What do you mean don't cluster the Golems? That way we can AOE them down lol! Oh and Sorry I murdered the Healer by dropping a Meteor on them)
Then again what would they change? also it's the Gate to FCoB so I always considered it a Skill Check of Sorts.

Originally Posted by Gilraen

If Second and Final Coil are really 20% easier then why are people STILL having problems with them? A company mate of mine runs a static and has made many runs on Turn 9 and still has yet to get a win. He's not some noobie, either, he's a Legacy just like me and has been on the forefront of all the content this game has to offer. I don't get this resentment over the easing of difficulty on Coil, those who care about it have all done it already. Let those who can't get a static group enjoy it for a change.

I'm not sure how being a Legacy player is a measurement of skill.
1.0 was vastly different, being good at that does not equal being good at this.

If your company mate STILL has not cleared T9 after all this time.... then yeah, he kinda IS a noobie.

Originally Posted by Alexia89

If your company mate STILL has not cleared T9 after all this time.... then yeah, he kinda IS a noobie.

So are most of the players then, considering coil is a reserved game for the 'elites' in FFXIV. But hey, wouldn't want content that can be cleared by just anyone, right? I mean those 10% hardcore players would get bored if they didn't have anyone to pick on for being 'noobie'.

Originally Posted by Alistaire

If everything was easily cleared even the 90% "noobies" would have nothing to shoot for.

This^

We can't just group all players as hardcore or casuals... I don't need echo to beat FCoB, why I haven't beaten it yet has nothing to do with it, but echo just removes the thrill of it all.

I put a lot of effort into my DPS, but with every echo step they add, it matters a lot less... What's the fun in it all when it doesn't make a damn difference how bad I play, cause I'll still hit those DPS checks?

This game in general has too many players that can't put out enough DPS, and I'm not even talking about fights with lots of movement, but even in a simple "dummy" fight they don't get nearly enough. Echo doesn't exactly improve this... Just put some effort into it.

Hopefully Alexander normal and savage will make it better...

Originally Posted by Craiger

I put a lot of effort into my DPS, but with every echo step they add, it matters a lot less.

Not to sound harsh, but if you put as much effort into finding a group as you did into your DPS, you would've cleared it by now.