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  1. #1
    Player
    Arkanethered's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Arkanethered Asura
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    I hope that they leave it and that story encounters progress in difficulty as we get into 3.0.... Seriously this game does not force anyone to learn how to play, it's faceroll and if you can't faceroll cry for better gear or a nerf so that you can faceroll.

    But this isn't an individual player problem, this is a community problem that has developed because the game as a whole is far to easy and people have become complacent with dropping out in hopes that the next round brings in someone to carry them.
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    JimboTCB's Avatar
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    Stubbo Mackenzie
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    It's not the difficulty per se, it's that it requires much, much more time, effort and coordination than anything else in the Trials Roulette pool, the rewards aren't nearly enough to make it worth the effort, and as a result people are starting to avoid Trials Roulette like the plague. Which causes its own problem in terms of dragging the experience level of people still doing it down, which makes it even harder for new people to get in to the damn thing in the first place, which means more people have more negative experiences and decide it's too hard and overtuned, and so on.
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    Makado's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Makado Kitase
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    Steps of Faith is easy. People do it in DF instead if using friends and party finder to make it easier for them and that is no ones fault other then their own. Yes, you can win in DF. No it probably isn't the easiest though.

    I enjoyed Steps and it was an interesting and different encounter. It is the last story "raid" battle of the entire first main story quest, it is supposed to feel a little tough in my eyes. Did you really want this "big encounter" battle to be you just go in smack down dragon quick and be done?
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    Last edited by Makado; 04-20-2015 at 12:23 AM.

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    Character
    Memenu Menu
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    Again, the fight itself isn't hard, it's the people's lack of ability that makes it hard.

    It doesn't matter what item level you gate it behind, if people are bad, there's going to be a wipe. No exceptions.

    You know what my first time in Steps of Faith was? Half the people leave without so much as saying anything before we even started.

    Second time we got the clear after losing the first attempt.

    If you refuse to think and learn the mechanics, then of course you're going to suck. You know what Coil 1's base item level is? i80 and without echo it's more difficult than Steps of Faith.
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    Yoku Dekimashita
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ZemusM View Post
    *sigh*

    LEARN THE MECHANICS. ilvl has NOTHING to do with this encounter. It can be done with 1 Tank and 1 Healer when you know what you are doing, its so SIMPLE. The Cannons are EVERYTHING.

    I cry to think that threads like this are going to dumb down future content
    This.
    Ooooh well though, because people who cry the loudest gets heard, they come here do that and then content gets the nerf.
    Then proceed to hoot and holler because we don't have enough hard content and here we are today...
    See Pharos and AKNM for hard dungeons outside Coil/Primal for examples...They were tough pre-nerf but I didn't get to so Pharos sadly.
    Don't worry because they'll nerf this too because it's gated of HW. They'll nerf it to the ground so people can DPS race it. Might as well, people don't wanna
    read/learn anything if it ain't a speed run. I just want harder content outside Primal and Coils. Or just remove the trial entirely.
    Just hate when we finally get a good dungeon and people scream "IT'S TOO MUCH!" and it gets the eventual nerf bat.
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    Last edited by Mugiawara; 04-20-2015 at 01:55 AM.

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    Character
    Fynlar Eira
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    I will say to all the people saying mechanics carry the fight: You do still need solid non-mechanic DPS to be able to win this. Having geared/competent DPS *does* matter, and is still vital.

    The three dragonkillers, even if they all hit, only account for 20% of Vishap's health, and there are only ever two cannons active at any one time (and they are not always able to hit Vishap, either)
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    It doesn't need an ILVL raise people needs to just listen its a really easy fight. But sadly people refuse to listen.
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    As people have said, the troubles boils down towards two things:

    1) Communication. People either don't speak up about the mechanics until it's too late or people who don't understand don't speak up. No one wants to take charge and everyone else either refuses to listen or take too long to fully grasp what they're supposed to do. This is probably the very first full party fight where tank n spank WON'T work.

    2) Lack of will power. This is not just in the trial either. Nearly everyone gives up in the first wipe or second wipe. Experienced players quit because they assume the party will never clear the fight and inexperienced players quit because they can't clear the fight in one shot and refuse to keep trying. You can't learn and clear fights if you are going to give up every single time and new players aren't going to learn if veteran players refuse to give people a chance after the first wipe.
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    SlyTribal's Avatar
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    Sly Tribal
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    He's complaining about mechanics in another thread now, he's not coming back to this one, lol
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    Yumi_umi's Avatar
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    Character
    Yumi Umi
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Ilvl means nothing lol
    Ppl can troll by qeuing in as dps with all vit or mind ironworks/ dreadwyrm accessories.
    Their ilvl will be high but that doesn't mean so will their stats.

    If only se added a vote reset on day 1 of patch.... It'd fix 99% of problems stated by the playerbase.
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