The Egi Conundrum: Heavensward and Beyond!

[Koyuki38]

SMN really has hundreds of possibilities to focus on pets and less dots

(this list is just few examples)
- give pets a buff for few time after summoning it or (like previous post) make it stronger and stronger over time and give it a finishing move before sumoning another.
- give smn a spell to change pet (with previous buff). this needs instant cast, very short animation, low mana cost, etc.
- give all pets their own CD
- give pet a bonus on each sumon equal to the ruin we are not casting when summoning.
- give them all same DPS but different utilities.
- create a special summoning spells which do something on hit, like a fire AOE which result in sumoning ifrit.
- give 3 aether stacks when summoning. The more stack we have, the stronger is the pet. Then when we have 0 stack left (cause of fester) change pet to get 3 other stack, 60 sec cd.

Another example of switching mecanic :
Open with Ifrit -> use Enkidle (ifrit hit with a dot) -> switch to Garuda -> use Dot Extend time on B,B2,M,M2,Enkidle

I tried this a day, it's possible to do with swift cast but it doesn't extend the Ifrit's dot from Enkidle.
Since Ruin and Summoning Garuda use both a GCD, it's worth because +15 sec from Enkidle dot is better than a Ruin.

[SoloWingMetatron]

SMN really has hundreds of possibilities to focus on pets and less dots

(this list is just few examples)
- give pets a buff for few time after summoning it or (like previous post) make it stronger and stronger over time and give it a finishing move before sumoning another.
- give smn a spell to change pet (with previous buff). this needs instant cast, very short animation, low mana cost, etc.
- give all pets their own CD
- give pet a bonus on each sumon equal to the ruin we are not casting when summoning.
- give them all same DPS but different utilities.
- create a special summoning spells which do something on hit, like a fire AOE which result in sumoning ifrit.
- give 3 aether stacks when summoning. The more stack we have, the stronger is the pet. Then when we have 0 stack left (cause of fester) change pet to get 3 other stack, 60 sec cd.

Another example of switching mecanic :
Open with Ifrit -> use Enkidle (ifrit hit with a dot) -> switch to Garuda -> use Dot Extend time on B,B2,M,M2,Enkidle

I tried this a day, it's possible to do with swift cast but it doesn't extend the Ifrit's dot from Enkidle.
Since Ruin and Summoning Garuda use both a GCD, it's worth because +15 sec from Enkidle dot is better than a Ruin.

All those ideas sound pretty good also. Though personally I prefer the buff stack idea still, only because it provides something for everyone. So for those who are seeking a specific thing to be changed or added to SMN will be provided that through this idea in some way. Like for me I really want to see a larger focus on Egi and to have larger Egi. This idea provides that in a way that will not deter those who want something different for SMN (which this idea also caters to) So in many ways it's the perfect compromise of the many different ideas that people want for SMN.

[SoloWingMetatron]

I'm sure whatever SE has planned for the future of SMN and the Egi it will be good though. But I was farming Ramuh for light yesterday, and thought the size of the Grey Arbiters would be perfect for the Egi! They are larger but not to a degree where they are blocking other players views. It also seems pretty clear the Grey Arbiters will be the same model used for the Ramuh Egi, just glowing purple instead. Although in the new benchmark for Heavensward, towards the end it looks like Ifrit has had a noticable size increase.

Though honestly, I think one of the reasons we keep asking for a change in SMN/Egi is simply just because we have became so used to it at level 50 and therefore became complacent/bored with the current Egi/abilities. I have faith Heavenward will alleviate this. I know once I unlock the first new Egi I'll have a new sense of vigor about trying it out and unlocking the others! That will be my top priority for Heavensward. I'm really looking forward to the new Austerities trials to unlock the Egi also, though I wonder where each one will take place. I assume the Austerities of Ice for the Shiva Egi will take place in Coerthas, but what about the others?

[Dohati]

i just really hope one of our new summons has an AoE obey attack, something that can be spammed (at a low potency of course). also, while i'm at it, wouldn't it be nice if titan had provoke? ;/ could swiftcast him for an emergency off-tank or resummon him if he died.

[Akiza]

Garuda Egi can fill the role of AoE spammer pet

[Xenosan]

I'd like to see the new Egis be brought into play not through Summon IV, V, etc; but with a Transpose like swapping action that'd turn Ifrit into Leviathan, Titan into Shiva, etc.

I'd like to see the job-quest give SMN a signature direct-damage spell. Doesn't need to be OP, just something SCH can't spam as well

I think the SMN community has definitely got SE's attention, so very hopeful for the future. I wonder if they intend it to be a rehaul as big as WAR's in 2.0/2.1

[SoloWingMetatron]

i just really hope one of our new summons has an AoE obey attack, something that can be spammed (at a low potency of course). also, while i'm at it, wouldn't it be nice if titan had provoke? ;/ could swiftcast him for an emergency off-tank or resummon him if he died.

It would be nice if Titan got a slight rework. A SMN with full ILVL130 gear will have a Titan with way over 12k HP and is capable of tanking certain dungeons/fights (as I have done, it's a challenge but very doable) But with some higher DEF and a provoke move Titan could actually be a decent Tank/OT in general.

[Keylus]

Enkidu-egi
Not the egi we need, but the egi we deserve
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/image...0px-Enkidu.png

[Fatshine]

I'd like to see the new Egis be brought into play not through Summon IV, V, etc; but with a Transpose like swapping action that'd turn Ifrit into Leviathan, Titan into Shiva, etc.

This is one of the best suggestions I have read

[Jonnycbad]

Could make Ramuh a stunner/buffer. Has an aoe stun Shocksquall, an AoE buff - Enthunder which gives everyone a small amount of damage added to their autoattacks, maybe Hastega which would be a 5-10% bonus to autoattack speed. Leviathan can be a healer, Spring Water would be like a Medica II centered on him and also remove some debuffs(only poison blind slow paralyzed heavy). Can give him Tail Whip which would be an AoE damage+20-30% slow for 20sec, Aquaveil an AoE Surecast, long recast though like 180-300s, Tidal Roar would do small damage on single target but reduce their damage by 15%. It's hard to make them all different without making SMN kind of a hybrid RDM type job.

Also if they release shiva leviathan and ramuh, SMN will need a Tridisaster II haha.