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    The Egi Conundrum: Heavensward and Beyond!

    Let's forget about the faults SMN may or may not have and focus on something good. Future Egi!

    So now we are so familiar with the current trio of Egi (Ifrit, Titan, Garuda) and the Heavensward trio (Leviathan, Ramuh, Shiva) looking very likely. I wonder what new Egi will become available beyond this point. Beyond Heavensward and how each one will play/differ from past Egi.

    Obviously a number a of new Primals have been revealed for Heavensward (Bismarck, Ravana, Alexander) So can we expect these to be the third trio of Egi? Or something totally different? After all there is also a couple of ARR Primals that could be worthy candidates (Phoenix, Mog). So there is definitely a lot of options regarding future Egi. But the question is, how much can they really differ from each other? Perhaps we will start to see Egi that have a greater focus on support/utility, a Phoenix Egi would certainly be a good candidate for such a role. Perhaps an Alexander Egi could also work in such a manner, along with a tanking focus much like Titan. Of course we may see a support/utility focus in either Leviathan, Ramuh or Shiva since this new trio will need to bring something new to the table also.

    There is also the question of Elder Primal Egi (Bahamut, Odin, Belias) and what chances these have of being added to a SMN's repertoire.
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    Diabolos should probably be among possible candidates as well. As far as beyond goes, I imagine SMN will max out at either 8 or 9 Egis, 7 and 8 being light and dark, and if they choose to, the 9th being Unaspected. Whom they could be is anyone's guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeLancer4 View Post
    Diabolos should probably be among possible candidates as well. As far as beyond goes, I imagine SMN will max out at either 8 or 9 Egis, 7 and 8 being light and dark, and if they choose to, the 9th being Unaspected. Whom they could be is anyone's guess.
    Sadly, Diabolos isn't a primal, at least it's never said. I wish he was!
    I'd love to have a mini Diabolos or Siren following me around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeLancer4 View Post
    Diabolos should probably be among possible candidates as well. As far as beyond goes, I imagine SMN will max out at either 8 or 9 Egis, 7 and 8 being light and dark, and if they choose to, the 9th being Unaspected. Whom they could be is anyone's guess.
    Yeah 8 to 9 Egi would make sense. We will definitely get one for each Aspect I'm sure. However in regards to Unaspected Egi in theory you could have multiple ones to aquire. But I guess that all depends on what the ultimate level cap will be.

    I guess Unaspected Egi could also be released even after said cap has been reached of course and just simply be "clones" of previous Egi play styles that just have a new model overlay. This in theory could allow SMN to obtain Egi of all Primals without them getting any more or "new" abilities over any other job. These extra Unaspected Egi would essentially be optional Egi you could say. Not sure how viable that idea is in reality but it would be nice for an Egi of every Primal to be available.

    Quote Originally Posted by HexWeaver View Post
    Sadly, Diabolos isn't a primal, at least it's never said. I wish he was!
    I'd love to have a mini Diabolos or Siren following me around.
    I know right! When I first played through the ARR story I thought for sure Siren would be a Primal, as well as Diabolos. Since there isn't much lore on either I guess there is still a chance they could indeed be Primals. They would make great candidates for the light and dark Egi. Though Bismarck or Alexander might have the light attribute covered, I feel Bismarck is more likely going to be unaspected though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoloWingMetatron View Post
    ... Though Bismarck or Alexander might have the light attribute covered, I feel Bismarck is more likely going to be unaspected though.
    As far as I remember Bismarck is water attributed summon (FFVI and FF Unlimited), but in these games/shows we didn't have Levi.
    So I wonder, what will they invent for Bismarck in FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoloWingMetatron View Post
    I know right! When I first played through the ARR story I thought for sure Siren would be a Primal, as well as Diabolos. Since there isn't much lore on either I guess there is still a chance they could indeed be Primals. They would make great candidates for the light and dark Egi. Though Bismarck or Alexander might have the light attribute covered, I feel Bismarck is more likely going to be unaspected though.
    Siren is a lower case primal (An aetheric being), while Diabolos is confirmed to be a void creature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZariusMorris View Post
    As far as I remember Bismarck is water attributed summon (FFVI and FF Unlimited), but in these games/shows we didn't have Levi.
    So I wonder, what will they invent for Bismarck in FFXIV.
    Here, Bismark doesn't look like he's water-aspected, but rather wind-aspected instead (given he's flying through the clouds).
    But who knows at this point...we'll have to see once the actual expansion comes out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bombast View Post
    Siren is a lower case primal (An aetheric being), while Diabolos is confirmed to be a void creature.
    WRONG. Here, siren is a species of creatures and NOT a primal/aetheric-based being.
    You're right in that Diabolos is a voidsent, though (and they hinted at his possible return).
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    After the Fire, Earth, Wind, Water, Thunder and Ice elements their is Light, Dark and Non Elemental so I suppose will max out at 9 Egis.
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    You have to remember Elements doesn't mean anything in this game, as Resistance isn't really a thing. When we get new Egi's you have to think more of "What role will they fill". We have a Melee, we have a Caster, we have a Tank. I don't think we'll get 3 Egi's in the expansion, I think we'll get 1 or maybe 2 and it'll probably be Leviathen as he's not an Old Man or a Skinny lady.
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    Wasn't Levi, Ramuh and Shiva confirmed a long time ago? It'd be hilarious to see a Bismark Egi or a Ravana Egi. Phoenix and Bahamut Egi plz.
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