Why Nobody Plays Warrior

[Kuwagami]

and then, something like this happened. http://youtu.be/WPV6taZUrPI

I should have a "ready-to-use" meme with that history channel guy saying "Xenosys" every time one of these video pop xD (remembering the 8 warriors T5...)



@OP let the plebs rage about how war is bad and just wreck them hard to show how wrong they were. I have to do that more often than not to show that not all French players are bad

[SpookyGhost]

It's because WAR doesn't have any actual "mitigation". They live through IB's self heal and rely solely on healer's to spam heals on them so that they don't completely disappear in 2 seconds. They also bring no raid utility what-so-ever, outside of a Slashing Resist debuff that only benefits themself and the vastly superior PLD. On top of that, they don't have a panic button at all while PLD has Hallowed Ground which is largely considered the best cooldown in the game (10s immunity?! Jesus!). The only thing I'd ever bring WAR for is T4 since, despite all the bad things, they have pretty respectable AOE in Overpower and the PLD can handle the Dreadnaughts.

Wait, which version are we on again?

[rawker]

their loss of mitigation is offset by defiance's increased healing received and a massive health pool. i also consider their self heals as a form of mitigation. do note that holmgang, despite shorter by 4 secs compared to hg, has way shorter cooldown than hg.

[Kuwagami]

do note that holmgang, despite shorter by 4 secs compared to hg, has way shorter cooldown than hg.

this is a fallacy. Holmgang is incredibly bad compared to HG. Though it saves my ass often enough so that I don't have anything to complain.

[Risvertasashi]

People get too hung up in party composition in PUG groups when honestly it doesn't really matter when everyone is so overgeared. A lot of PUG groups are pretty stubborn in having both PLD and a WAR and while that's ideal, its not really necessary for any of the turns outside of maybe T13. You can go double PLD or double WAR just fine, it just comes down to player skill.

That's just it though. The skill of pugs. If you have skilled enough players, it's apparently possible to 7 war 1 sch t13.

[Launched]

this is a fallacy. Holmgang is incredibly bad compared to HG. Though it saves my ass often enough so that I don't have anything to complain.

The problem is that you're comparing it directly to Hallowed, but it's not the same skill. Don't use it as a panic button, use it as an actual cooldown. Let your healers know when you're going to use it. Use it on stuff like Wild Charge or Revelation to avoid tank swapping. Holmgang is amazing if you're not stuck in the mindset of "I need to keep this until I'm about to die".

[SpookyGhost]

The problem is that you're comparing it directly to Hallowed, but it's not the same skill. Don't use it as a panic button, use it as an actual cooldown. Let your healers know when you're going to use it. Use it on stuff like Wild Charge or Revelation to avoid tank swapping. Holmgang is amazing if you're not stuck in the mindset of "I need to keep this until I'm about to die".

That's actually how Hallowed works too. o_o

[Firepower]

People also forgot to mention before 2.1 War didn't have a reasonable Cooldown on its stun thus making dual WAR on Ifrit hard a nightmare in pugs (alternate stuns) on eruption. This was also during the time where people would quit Ifrit hard at the start (no leave penalty) because of no blm or smn for aoe LB for the nails or a PLD to offtank stun.

[SpookyGhost]

People also forgot to mention before 2.1 War didn't have a reasonable Cooldown on its stun thus making dual WAR on Ifrit hard a nightmare in pugs (alternate stuns) on eruption. This was also during the time where people would quit Ifrit hard at the start (no leave penalty) because of no blm or smn for aoe LB for the nails or a PLD to offtank stun.

I actually loved going WAR on Ifrit HM in 2.0. PLD always had to be OT stunbot. ;D

... Though if you ended up with 2 WARS, nobody wanted to even try it. :< It was perfectly doable with 2 WARs, you just alternate stuns, but that was the tricky part for DF.

[Omni-Vocational_Ryan]

Then you got my FC who loves the crap out of Warriors.