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  1. #31
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    myahele's Avatar
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
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    What will happen is that a DRK will ask why the thief stole from the vendor, wherein he finds out the local lord/clergy has been hoarding off food and taxing them way too high. The DRK will then do a series of quest to isolate and arrest the corrupt clergy/lord. Thus the peasantry will live happily ever after.

    Along the way he'll have to convince the DRK rival who wants to be more forceful in meting out justice. After a duel (due to rival succumbing to darkness in his heart) where we win, the rival will learn the error of his way
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  2. #32
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    Alacran's Avatar
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    Maeror Montealvo
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    To be fair, there isn't really a reason that Dark Knights couldn't be portrayed as fearsome figures, driven by ambition and their own personal interpretations of right and wrong, who mete out, "Justice," indiscriminately and with brutal, sometimes cruel efficiency. Sure, a Dark Knight killing a bunch of bandits makes sense and works just fine with what we have now. But, what about a dark knight who kills a homeless, destitute person just trying to feed their children by stealing from a vendor? When confronted by the fact the man/woman they just killed had hungry mouths to feed, their response can be cold. "They'll be better off in an Orphanage than suffering under a failed parent".

    Seems pretty dark and borderline evil, no? I mean, technically, they're still bringing, "Justice," by stopping a Thief, but the lack of empathy or any modicum of mercy is pretty dark.
    Who would or could call that a champion? Who would bother associating with an individual of that caliber. The example above illustrates a corrupt system more than a single person brandishing their personal justice (in my opinion).

    "None dare to administer justice to these sacrosanct elite residing out side the reach of the law. Who then, defends the feeble from the transgressions of those meant to guide and protect them?

    A valiant few take up arms to defend the downtrodden, and not even the holy priest and knights can escape their judgment. Pariahs in their own land, they are known by many as "Dark Knights".

    Being that the setting is in Ishgard a place of near zealot like adherence to religion and caste system, it becomes very easy to see what role Dark knights may take.
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  3. #33
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Bismarck
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I've seen quite a few quests about people wanting a warrior of darkness rather than a warrior of light pointing out in other FF games that a warrior of darkness has infact been the hero bringing balance.

    I think there will be a touch of that with Dark Knight. Taking the role in context of Ishgard we see a situation where the holy and ordered structure is the tyrant. A very 'tyranny of the light' thing. Honestly I think this is a better place to take the DK. Lets be honest, they aren't going to let players play bad guys and even borderline evil doesn't fit the narrative.
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  4. #34
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    Vexander's Avatar
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    Rin Black
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    Who would or could call that a champion? Who would bother associating with an individual of that caliber. The example above illustrates a corrupt system more than a single person brandishing their personal justice (in my opinion).
    Sorry, I probably could've done a better job explaining it. In the example, the Dark Knight is not some ordained authority figure, but more of a Vigilante. Naturally no law would mete out death as a punishment for theft, but the Dark Knight is judge, jury, and executioner. Some are more strict and cruel than others, while others can be more lenient. There would be room for various types of Dark Knights.

    Anyways, it was just a suggestion.
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