Newbie Rant - RNG

[Omegakiyohime]

Sad truth is... it is actually much easier to craft HQ in this game compared to other games.

By using HQ mats, proper gear and proper rotations - you can almost guarantee HQ on stuff that is even a 4-star craft.

Then you look at other games.... FFXI, TERA, Aion, etc - you just hit the craft button and pray to fucking god it HQs with like a 1%-25% HQ rate.

If the game lets you HQ every single time, there would be no value in HQ

I was just going to point this out. HQ crafting with HQ mats, is not really that difficult.

Also, failing a synth (outside of a reclaim fail) is not a symptom of RNG. It's just poor planning, poor cp management, and bad counting. Progress is just a numbers game and even without cross class skills, you should be able to complete a synth if you pay attention and plan.

[KenjiChan]

Sad truth is... it is actually much easier to craft HQ in this game compared to other games.

By using HQ mats, proper gear and proper rotations - you can almost guarantee HQ on stuff that is even a 4-star craft.

Then you look at other games.... FFXI, TERA, Aion, etc - you just hit the craft button and pray to fucking god it HQs with like a 1%-25% HQ rate.

If the game lets you HQ every single time, there would be no value in HQ

Yeah, I get the feeling that's the case. But admittedly, which is more infuriating - just a simple percentage of success with a single button, or a long, complex, well-thought process with multiple RNG processes gunking up the works?

[nuyu11]

I think this game still ok, to get the ilvl130 gear is confirm just need some times because of the cap system.
Crafting I cant tell yet because all my DOH & DOL are still lvl 20ish, can't do much with that lvl for the cross skill requirement.

Better gear up your first lvl 50 class for Heavensward then lvl another 2nd & 3rd class for better cross skill.
Thats is my target now, after that lvl crafting for GIL, then use GIL to buy house, then other class duhuhuhuhu.

[Veji]

Play Guild Wars 2 for about 3 months, then re-access the situation you see here. You'll grow an appreciation for FFXIV.

[Perzeval]

RNG is an artificial way to extend the lifespan of content. Though I'm not a huge fan of excessive RNG, I understand why it's there - so people can't wrap up content in less than a week and then unsubscribe. The only RNG I truely despised was the weekly lockout in coil, having just 1 shot at a gear drop for 7 days was really sad. Pretty much every MMO has RNG elements, heck, even offline RPGs do. And it was much, much worse 10 years ago, like the RNG hell Ragnarok Online unleashed with drop rates of 0.01% for Boss cards and an extremely high chance (99.x%) of breaking your gear when upgrading to +10. FFXIV is fine.

[nuyu11]

Snip.

The time when you fail to +10....... I scream like hell.

[KenjiChan]

Don't get me wrong, guys - I'm aware that a lot of other games use the RNG to artificially pad out content and some have been very horribly handled, and FF14 is small potatoes compared to them. It's just a small rant from a newbie player who's just a bit tired of having steel ingots broken down or spat out as NQ despite one's best efforts - among other things. As I mentioned earlier, patience is not a particular virtue of mine despite my attempted to correct it, and the rant was just purging it from my system. I wasn't trying to sound particularly whiny or spoiled - just annoyed and irritated. I'm sorry you've had to deal with my complaining, and I highly doubt it'll be my last. But I know it can be much, much worse.

[Veji]

Stay the course. MMOs do require a bit of patience, but believe me, aside from WoW, you are in good hands with this game. I'm following in your footsteps on this, so i'm sure ill feel the same at some point. The thing that drives me though, is that there are people who have done, are still doing it, and are still enjoying it, so the pay-off is there.

[KenjiChan]

Stay the course. MMOs do require a bit of patience, but believe me, aside from WoW, you are in good hands with this game. I'm following in your footsteps on this, so i'm sure ill feel the same at some point. The thing that drives me though, is that there are people who have done, are still doing it, and are still enjoying it, so the pay-off is there.

Agreed. I might be ranting, but I don't have any plans on quitting any time soon.

I... just need to regrow my hair a bit first. >.>

[Zfz]

Oh crafting is by no means the worst of the RNG game. Over-melding is the worst.

45% success rate and 7 fails in a row?
24% success rate and over 20 fails in a row?
I've had both.

Over-melding is the biggest pain in this game. Especially when your progression absolutely requires over-melding. You either suck it up and keep counting your fails while having absolutely no way to help the chance, or you give up on progressing any further on crafting (and gathering, for that matter).

Thank the Twelve this problem is getting addressed with token gear for crafters and gatherers in Heavensward.