Newbie Rant - RNG

[KenjiChan]

Bit of a long rant. See the TL;DR at the 4th post to get the concise summary.

I've only been subscribed one or two months, and I love the game. A lot of the dungeons are fun, the bosses are spectacular and a joy to fight against, the aesthetics are FF standard - aka, jaw-droppingly awesome. However, one of the HUGEST complaints I have in the game is something everyone has experienced and something SE seems to be obsessed with:

The RNG.

You go to World of Darkness, hoping to pick up some gear for yourself, make yourself stronger. Ten runs later and the item for your class STILL hasn't dropped.

You want to upgrade your Nexus into a Zodiac. So you drop by the necessary dungeon for that drop. It doesn't come, so you go again. And a hundreds times later, NOPE.

You're here looking for some fish - to create a dish or maybe some oil for alchemy. Okay. You go fish. And after a dozen hours and a couple hundred wrong fish later, you say 'F*** this' and never touch fishing again.

[KenjiChan]

And the one that grinds my teeth the most - crafting. Now, I like the crafting system and how involving and almost zen-like it is - getting HQ raw material, then slowly working on it so I can create something I can be proud of. And yet here's there's at least 3 RNG mechanics that totally screw me over - raise your hand if you have steps fail more than twice in a row and totally waste your hard-earned HQ materials as it spits out a NQ product or worse, fails entirely. Raise your hand if you see the condition as Good or even Excellent - only to realize that you don't have the durability to capitalize on it. Raise your blasted hand if you have an 80% or higher chance of an HQ product getting made when you finish it - and end up stuck with a NQ product!

[Chiramu]

The Crystal Tower dungeons award a heap of soldiery, you should at least have enough for a full set of soldiery gear by now. That is enough for Shiva EX for weapons if you want to upgrade etc.

Also RNG, what else do you expect from a RPG? There is RNG in every single RPG you can think of.

[KenjiChan]

Square Enix, I have no idea what is it with you and the obsession with the RNG, but three words: KNOCK IT OFF. Your overusage of the RNG system does not make things fun, it does not keeps us guessing, it does not make things challenging - it makes things boring, tedious, and all in all, ABSOLUTELY INFURIATINGLY FRUSTRATING. We worked hard to take down bosses and mobs with coordination of our teammates - and yet we get nothing to compensate our efforts simply because Lady Luck wasn't feeling up to it today. We ground for heaven-knows-how-long for HQ raw materials to create HQ equipment - only to have all of our precious materials wasted because the RNG decides to take a dump on our heads.

[Kiroh]

Welcome to crafting in FFXIV : 90% of success, 60% chance of failure!

(P.S. You can bypass the 1,000 character post limit by editing your post after it's been posted instead of posting 4 times.)
(P.P.S. SE is changing the dungeon loot system for Heavensward dungeons at least, not sure if it will be retroactive for pre 3.0 content though)

[KenjiChan]

Look, I perfectly understand that luck plays a part in determining things - in real life and in games. I get that. However, never, EVER mistake luck for skill or challenge! It isn't! With the RNG everywhere, the game feels like gambling everywhere! If I wanted to gamble, I'd go to a casino or Gold Saucer, not a fantasy MMORPG! I don't mind if you wanna keep the RNG, but keep it restricted to things like monster drops or Gold Saucer events or critical hits - not EVERY. SINGLE. ASPECT. OF. THE. GAME.

TL;DR - THE RNG CAN KISS MY *censor censor censor censor*!!!!



*Takes a deep breath* Right. Sorry guys, had to get that out of my system. I highly doubt the developers will read this but I still felt like getting this out there. If you've read the entire way through, kudo for listening to a noob spit fire and brimstone every which way. Please have a pleasant day

[KenjiChan]

The Crystal Tower dungeons award a heap of soldiery, you should at least have enough for a full set of soldiery gear by now. That is enough for Shiva EX for weapons if you want to upgrade etc.

Also RNG, what else do you expect from a RPG? There is RNG in every single RPG you can think of.

I understand and don't mind RNG in an RPG - they go together like peanut butter and jelly at this point. What really gets me is when the RNG pervades EVERY ASPECT OF THE GAME SO THOROUGHLY. I despise the RNG when it noticeably comes in and makes things tedious and frustrating rather than challenging and fun. It's inevitable, sure, but I wouldn't mind it so much if it was severely toned down so I don't end up cursing it at least ten times every hour I play.

[KenjiChan]

Welcome to crafting in FFXIV : 90% of success, 60% chance of failure!

(P.S. You can bypass the 1,000 character post limit by editing your post after it's been posted instead of posting 4 times.)
(P.P.S. SE is changing the dungeon loot system for Heavensward dungeons at least, not sure if it will be retroactive for pre 3.0 content though)

Cheers for that. First post(s) is a rant on the system. I'm a fun guy to be around. >.> I'm glad though. That'll take at least one of my rants away.

[nuyu11]

I'm a new player like you man.... As for my personal reference RNG in this game not really matter to me.
Just keep trying until u have what you want, that is my motto so far I'm satisfy even bit slow.
Patience is a virtue. V(^_^)V

[Lemuria]

I'm okay with some random elements. How they're presented, on the other hand, that's a topic for a whole other debate. A game can be a lot of fun to play, but still have glaringly obvious flaws that need to be addressed. A lot of them seem to be the 'elephant in the room', that is, an obvious truth which goes ignored or simply not addressed. When someone does point it out, people just argue 'it's always been that way' as if that's something to be proud of.

Change can be a good thing, but it's often met with heavy resistance. A lot of people know they aren't getting what they want, but can't put into words what it is they DO want. Change is needed, change is necessary. Only time will tell if our voices have been heard though.