/Tell Options

[LTEvil]

Because the implementation of this "thing" would have huge consequences that supporters of this thread are not willing/able to see. This would ruin market and recruiting, they just won't admit it because they're so bothered by the RMT.

Well it may or may not. But as far as I can tell none of us here can actually do anything but make suggestions. Why not try to adapt what you can to avoid the problem you see? Or perhaps try to explain the position. I don't know much but I know verbal jabs gets us no where?

[Lyzern]

Well it may or may not. But as far as I can tell none of us here can actually do anything but make suggestions. Why not try to adapt what you can to avoid the problem you see? Or perhaps try to explain the position. I don't know much but I know verbal jabs gets us no where?

You're right, but it still doesn't change the fact that the only people who applaud this kind of suggestion, are people who confine themselves with their FC/LS, don't craft, don't trade and don't recruit and it also doesn't change the fact that the more people who stand by it, the more chances Square would even consider this, which I'm 99% sure they won't. But I've failed many HQs at 99%...

They also put points like "Oh, you can just take it off whenever" - But no, nobody would ever put random tells on. They wouldn't even remember to do it while in PF because it's so convinient.

[Quesse]

Because the implementation of this "thing" would have huge consequences that supporters of this thread are not willing/able to see. This would ruin market and recruiting, they just won't admit it because they're so bothered by the RMT.

People want control. So since SE is doing little to nothing, people want to take control over the situation.

As soon as SE comes to their senses and fixes the issue, people will no longer care. SE is very big on community so I highly doubt they would put anything in game as restrictive as this. They just, historically, take their time to deal with stuff like this.

[Grimmel]

You're right, but it still doesn't change the fact that the only people who applaud this kind of suggestion, are people who confine themselves with their FC/LS, don't craft,

...Look up Loki Bludcraven on the Lodestone and tell me I don't craft and offer my crafting services. Tell me I'm not still recruiting for my Free Company. Tell me I'm some recluse who doesn't use party finder to search for content and shout for things. Go on. Be THAT person that feels pointing the finger was the worst thing they could have possibly done.

If this were to be implemented; I would take off the option so I could get random tells because I'm not some idiot who forgets what options I enable.

[Craiger]

I wouldn't be using this, because RMT really isn't too bad on my server (yet at least), but this would be an easy change that could help people with lots of RMT spam.

It should then only be for when you use /busy or something, because otherwise problems will arise just like Lyzern said.

It would still only be a very temporary "solution" for some people, because I actually use /tell outside of LS, FC and friends list more than with players within them... I talk to them in whatever chat they're in (the friends I talk to, are all in FC or in some of my LS').

That's why I wouldn't use it, but then again... I consider RMT "spam" every 30 mins, to be a lot, and I usually don't get that many.

[Arkista]

Doesn't matter what you fools think of my feedback on this thread, this will never happen, so get your minds off of it.

/thread.

I don't know why do you act like it would be so hard for crafters, recruiters, and party finder people to simple turn the filter on and off? If you're looking for people for a FC, turn it off. If you want to sell/buy stuff, turn it off. And I'm pretty sure those who are looking for FCs, PFs, or Crafters would do the same. If someone can't manage their own chat filters and miss out then that's their problem. The benefits far out weigh the consequences of a optional filter. There are also other chats such as /shout, dunno if you heard of it, but lots of people use it to advertise FC recruitment, Selling/Buying crafting, and even Party Finder. But that is also where this tell filter system would have issues. If RMTs could no longer /tell, they would simply /sh. But even then it would probably only be in cities or major hangout places like GS or RT.

Even if SE implemented a said system, its not like it would be set to "on" for every player new or old. They would have to manually turn it on.

I've personally solved the rmt /t issue for myself, So I'm not really bothered my them anymore.

They also put points like "Oh, you can just take it off whenever" - But no, nobody would ever put random tells on. They wouldn't even remember to do it while in PF because it's so convinient.

All SE has to do is add a feature somewhere on the HUD simply saying you have /tells disabled.




EDIT I looked up your lodestone, honestly I think the reason why you're so against a /tell filter, is because you're scared you would lose business. I'm only assuming because you're so adamant about it and you have all your crafts 50, that you must sell crafting services in Party Finder and through /tells.

[Lyzern]

EDIT I looked up your lodestone

I find it rude and counter-factual to examine other people's Lodestone to cement your arguments on a forum (where free speech by all should be had), but whatever.

Yes, but not exclusively. I am also an officer of my FC and am the master of 4 linkshells, which means I do a lot of selling and recruiting. In my point of view, taking into account most people's mentality, they will just keep their tells disabled for randoms, so:

1) I use a shout macro and get 3 PMs
2) Those 3 PMs have tells disabled, they send me a /tell
3) I can't reply to them asking questions regarding the joining of my FC/Linkshells or answer any questions they ask
4) Since they've grown accostumed to their tells being disabled, they don't even remember they have it off, so we can't communicate.

And again, this is just ONE example, there's many, many more. Far outweighing the benefits of this system.

And don't reply "oh but people will take it off when they need". No. No, they won't. Maybe you would, maybe I would, but not the average player. I've seen countless times people forgetting that their Busy status disables tells, let alone a system without a bright red icon on your name.

[Gilraen]

When I'm dealing with a crafter I only use /t for a few minutes to work out location, or I go to where I see the crafter often so I can instead talk in /s because they are literally right there. There's no reason to use /t once you're right next to eachother. This option... is for when you aren't expecting to be using /t anytime soon. Yes, people will forget they have it on. That's a given, as you said about /busy, but unless these people are blithering idiots they're not going to completely forget about it. I have minion and pet targeting turned off, I know this. I set it. If I want to use minion functions I have to go into options and turn them back on, but that takes all of a few seconds. It's not some 'have to log in again' kind of setting.

[Riastrad]

I would very much enjoy if you had to be face to face in order to send friend invites. Heck, link friends list with the people that can /tell you up to about level 20 or so and I would be happy.

[Grimmel]

I've seen countless times people forgetting that their Busy status disables tells, let alone a system without a bright red icon on your name.

Ever thought that some people play the game without displaying their name and the names of others?

All in all I'm done arguing with you because you seem to offer no alternative solution to this being implemented which makes your counter arguments; counter productive. If you can come up with a viable alternative solution, then maybe we'll talk. But so far all I see if you complaining and insulting people by calling them names. And quite frankly; your sarcasm in the majority of your responses is unwarranted.