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    RobinRethiel's Avatar
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    As said: I don't see anyone who really wants to slaughter the poor Brass Blades, many of them for sure even don't know what is happening and just thrown into this treachery. And also no one says: omg, I'm the WoL, I could pwn this city! Totally!

    It's simply about the... try to stop this coup. Remember FF9, when the group tries to save the city and fought against Beatrix. Hell, she owned the group at the end of the fight and when Ilberd is indeed some "hardcore" agent of someone, prepared for all this, so he may have some tricks ready to beat us - perfectly fine. No one says and wants, that we simply stomp the bad guys. But just running away like a coward, abandoning the Sultana, Raubahn, the Scions and all the people of Uldah... I mean, we are no princess (or prince). We ARE somehow the first and last line of defense against the worst evil. It just feels wrong to turn around and run without a real reason, even IF a fight may cause some political mishaps. But we are no politicians. I think the way most people play their character would mean anyway, that they would not even give it a first thought. - And a coup, especially one bloody like that, means anyway, that diplomacy is dead.

    It feels forced, because the reason we flee is... odd. The WoL is exactly the one, who does not flee. S/he is the one, who stays. Even if she dies. To save others. That was the main story of our characters.Story-wise I always see the elite guardians of city getting simply slashed by normal attacks. I don't think that they sent some mere recruits to the most horrible places, just to die there.

    But it's always tricky, especially in a FF game. Even the single player games of FF always had such moments - for the sake of the story.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pterois View Post
    the fact that it doesn't go the way you way makes it more realistic... shit don't always play out the way you want it to.
    The opposite is the problem. Things go exactly like they want it. We are robbed of the control over our character and a forced to behave like they want. And exactly THIS is not realistic. It would be, if they really mind control us, something like that may be possible in the reality of FF. But that we just totally act out of character is unrealistic. That's the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    We also have to keep in mind that Kan E and Merlwyb were surrounded. Even if they attacked they only had a few body guards with them.

    They were given a clear choice to leave, or be arrested as well
    Are you kidding me? You want arrest the leaders of Limsi and Gridania? If someone would really not want to do this, it is the putschists. They would have a civil war which, in addition, is pushed by two armies. They would be dead or had to flee before they even had the opportunity to call in allies like the empire. And it would be even worse, if they kill them. It would be like... the republicans killing Obama, Putin and Xi Jiping to take over the USA. But again: no one said, that the leaders should start a slaughter. But maybe avoid it. They have lost the Uldahn leaders of the alliance. Because Raubahn and the Sultana were their allies. Lolo? Not really. And they could have saved Raubahn at least. But yes, this one is tricky. What I miss most there is some more reactions after this. A political earthquake just hit Uldah and the alliance with it. And there is not much of a reaction. Would be fine to more...

    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Of course, "solo" in this context means "relying very heavily on the Crystals of Light and/or Hydaelyn."
    This merely means, that he just can't turn us, like the others. He's still a giant beast with immense powers. Of couse - and I say it again and again - no one wants to slaughter Uldah or the Brass, that was never the point.
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    Last edited by RobinRethiel; 04-17-2015 at 11:49 PM.