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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    Killing people would make you look more guilty. You might look guilty fleeing, but doing so at least gives you opportunity to prove your innocence. You accomplish nothing taking down the syndicate on the spot. Look at Raubahn for example. Well respected and trusted leader, all that completely destroyed fighting back and now sits in a cell with only one arm.
    Never said we should slaughter the Brass, for what? Why do people always think of slaughtering the Brass? I dont't get it.
    We should have slaughtered Ilberd and Lolo. Who should accuse after after they are gone? Raubahn?

    But even without: Just staying for a trial. Really would like to see, how Lolo tries to convince the people, that we have killed the Sultana so he can take over Uldah.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dalvy View Post
    Helping Raubahn would further help TelAdel/Lolorito's case against the WoL and the Scions in witchcraft (likely they mean the Echo) and Nanamo's death. There was just no way to win in this situation.
    They would be dead. How would this help them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinRethiel View Post
    Never said we should slaughter the Brass, for what? Why do people always think of slaughtering the Brass? I dont't get it.
    We should have slaughtered Ilberd and Lolo. Who should accuse after after they are gone? Raubahn?

    But even without: Just staying for a trial. Really would like to see, how Lolo tries to convince the people, that we have killed the Sultana so he can take over Uldah.


    They would be dead. How would this help them?
    Pretty sure if you killed Ilberd and Lolorito, the brass blades would go after you, even the ones not involved in the conspiracy, you've just killed the Commander of a Grand Company and a member of Ul'dah's government, you'd be killed, or thrown into the Marasaja Pit.

    Yes, we did take on the Cloud of Darkness, Ifrit, Garuda, Titan and so on, but we never did any of this alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy2nd View Post
    Pretty sure if you killed Ilberd and Lolorito, the brass blades would go after you, even the ones not involved in the conspiracy, you've just killed the Commander of a Grand Company and a member of Ul'dah's government, you'd be killed, or thrown into the Marasaja Pit.

    Yes, we did take on the Cloud of Darkness, Ifrit, Garuda, Titan and so on, but we never did any of this alone.
    Why should they? The Brass Blades are mainly paid sell swords. If the guy who pays them is dead, why should they serve him any longer? Same with the Crystal Brave traitors. They would just wait for the next guy who pays them. And for most of them it would be pretty clear: Lolo killed the Sultana to become sole ruler of Uldah. What should they say about this?

    Commander of a Great Company? Ilberd? Alphinaud is the commander. Killing Ilberd because he attacked the General of Uldah - it would be the same as the imperial spy inside the Flames. Happens. We would have saved the day again. Maybe some would frown. Who cares. People don't need to like us, we still would have saved them from tyranny. Could sleep with that. Can't sleep with running away and leaving the poor people of Uldah to the bloody claws of this Nazi Lala.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinRethiel View Post
    Why should they? The Brass Blades are mainly paid sell swords. If the guy who pays them is dead, why should they serve him any longer? Same with the Crystal Brave traitors. They would just wait for the next guy who pays them. And for most of them it would be pretty clear: Lolo killed the Sultana to become sole ruler of Uldah. What should they say about this?

    Commander of a Great Company? Ilberd? Alphinaud is the commander. Killing Ilberd because he attacked the General of Uldah - it would be the same as the imperial spy inside the Flames. Happens. We would have saved the day again. Maybe some would frown. Who cares. People don't need to like us, we still would have saved them from tyranny. Could sleep with that. Can't sleep with running away and leaving the poor people of Uldah to the bloody claws of this Nazi Lala.
    Because Lolorito and Ilberd aren't the only heads on the Hydra, killing them would only make it easier for more to take their place. Also, THREE important people die the same night? A lot of the smallfolk would lump their deaths in with the Sultana's assassination, probably assume that its a takeover manuvere by Raubahn and the Scions. Imagine the reaction if Prime Minister of the UK, The Queen and the head of NATO got murdered on the same night, and that someone was confirmed to be responsible for two of these deaths, most people would assume that they were responsible for the third death.

    Alphinaud was the commander, then he had the sword to his neck, Ilberd will have assumed his role. Also, Raubahn took the first swing, he killed one of the Syndicate, it wouldn't take much for them to spin some bullshit about him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinRethiel View Post
    Never said we should slaughter the Brass, for what? Why do people always think of slaughtering the Brass? I dont't get it.
    We should have slaughtered Ilberd and Lolo. Who should accuse after after they are gone? Raubahn?

    But even without: Just staying for a trial. Really would like to see, how Lolo tries to convince the people, that we have killed the Sultana so he can take over Uldah.


    They would be dead. How would this help them?
    They weren't The sole people in that room, and aren't the only heads on the beast. With that many witnesses and with no proof of innocence, people are going to lean in favor of the accusers.

    Also, how would you hide killing politicians at a banquet? How COULD you have the moment to think of attacking Lolorito after Raubahn asks you to run?

    Heroics and bloodlust aren't going to solve as large of a plot as this. Again, how is slaughtering people once Raubahn frees us change the situation in our favor?

    The WoL could not do anything to improve the situation; we are not as badass as we think.
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