RMT, ICANN and XIN NET TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION

[Kosmos992k]

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I was going to give you the pleasure of a lengthy reply. But than I recalled you being but hurt from another thread. Your post history is full of them. Good luck with that. ������

Says the person equating law enforcement online with living in North Korea....

[Risvertasashi]

ICANN hands out IP addresses... it does not police the internet... anyone may operate any site they wish. This has nothing to do with the spam we receive in game.

Pretty much this. ICANN are not internet police. They're an administrative organization with a very specific function.

The police are... well, literally the police. It's the responsibility of the police and courts to take down fraudulent operators. ICANN is not Judge Dredd.

[DragonFlyy]

Its gotten a lot worse their now using shout on my server and every day there's a friend request. There has to be some legal thing SE can do their technically stealing from SE because their selling stuff they don't own SE owns every piece of data in game its in the ToS.

There is nothing legally that SE can do short of banning the accounts. A ToS gives them the right to ban for any reason they deem, however it would not hold up in a court of law. Especially in other countries.

[Miitan]

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I don't like your tone, therefore I think you should be banned from the Internet.

[Rendecrow]

There is nothing legally that SE can do short of banning the accounts. A ToS gives them the right to ban for any reason they deem, however it would not hold up in a court of law. Especially in other countries.

Actually banning accounts would go a long way to stop the problem. Ban a thousand or so accounts that buy gil, and everyone who was not banned would be to afraid to buy gil. As a result there would be less business for gil sellers and the spam would decrease over time.

[Kosmos992k]

I don't like your tone, therefore I think you should be banned from the Internet.

But...only North Korea can do that!

[Miitan]

Actually banning accounts would go a long way to stop the problem. Ban a thousand or so accounts that buy gil, and everyone who was not banned would be to afraid to buy gil. As a result there would be less business for gil sellers and the spam would decrease over time.

Ban a thousand accounts and you have a thousand less people paying you each month.

[Zfz]

ICANN cannot and should not do anything unless required by a court. Internet scams will continue to exist until such day when all human on earth agree to stand under and support one authority who has jurisdiction over the whole globe. Before then, scams of all kind are protected by differences in jurisdiction and costs of litigation. It is a result of our legal paradigm of assumed innocent until proven guilty.

The difficulty of international litigation is also the primary reason why no company had been successful in eradicating RMT from their games as long as people see a need for it.

[Aerowaffle]

There has been a lot of anger lately regarding RMT, mostly directed at SE. The truth is that whilst Se are doing all they can this anger should be directed at ICANN. Here's why :-
Nearly all RMT sites are flagged by ICANN as scam sites.
XIN NET TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION are the hosts for these websites.
ICANN could stop these sites from operating but choose not to. This link from 2009 will show how absolutely nothing has been done in the last 6 years.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/167549/article.html

So the lack of response by SE after public outcry, farming bots that exist for weeks after repeated reporting, and SE only assigning three people to the "special task force", is SE doing everything they can?

I don't think so. It may be true that ICANN could stop these sites, but that doesn't mean that SE should just be letting the RMT run amok while waiting for these sites to be taken down.

[Darra]

ICANN what? Ugh. Do you know the phrase whack-a-mole? It's a game that's being played with The Pirate Bay, that infamous torrent site. The cops raid it, shut it down, and it pops up again somewhere else, then the cops virtual raid it, get it shut down, then it pops up somewhere else. So even if ICANN or someone else closed the site down, it can still popup elsewhere. Technically speaking, unless gil selling sites are intentionally taking payments and not delivering the product/service they have promised to, they aren't a scam site. If they are infected with malware, they sometimes (usually through users reporting it) get blocked or give a malware warning when you go to those sites. And despite what some people here clearly think, gil selling is not illegal, and no, it's not "unethical" except to those few of you that for whatever reason have decided it's against your personal views.