There's a difference between going into content blind with people who are also going into it blind (or know you are) and going into content blind with 7 random people. There is a level of expectation in DF for hard content, you will cause many many wipes by just going in completely blind and people are going to get sick of that when you could've just read a guide before going in. If you want to experience a fight first hand without needing a guide to tell you what to do, make a PF stating as such or go in with friends you know. Don't expect 7 random people to teach you the fight or put up with you, it's just not how things work.